Charlottesville neighborhoods.  Courtesy Charlottesville Low-Income Housing Coalition

by James C. Sherlock

In the relationship between Charlottesville and the University of Virginia, very bad things have happened to Charlottesville and continue to do so.

I have developed a working thesis on that relationship.

The city is at the mercy of the University by virtue of the latter’s wealth, influence, and power in Charlottesville elections.

It is, driven by University community voters, the bluest voting district in the Commonwealth.

Unfailingly progressive Charlottesville city council, school board and Commonwealth’s Attorney candidates are elected by the dominant votes of the University, its employees and its students.

Charlottesville City Schools (CCS) are to a large degree creatures of the University.

Many CCS teachers have their bachelors and/or advanced degrees from UVa’s School of Education and Human Development. Many University ed school students do their student teaching in Charlottesville.

Every progressive educational policy and virtually every experiment the University’s ed school can dream up are visited on those students.  The University’s ed school Research Centers and Labs find the proximity convenient and a pliant school board welcoming.

The University can’t bear to leave anything in CCS alone.

As Charlottesville High School faces the aftermath of rising rates of violence at the school and three canceled days of school due to alack of personnel, teachers at the University and other community groups have assisted in the school’s response. Faculty from the University’s School of Education and Human Development were present at development sessions with Charlottesville High School teachers aiming to address underlying issues….

“Dr. Stephanie Rowley, dean of the University’s Education School, said faculty from Education’s counselor education and educational psychology programs were particularly involved with the efforts because of the relevance of their expertise.”

There is no record of their being invited.

“Lack of personnel”.  The teachers walked out because of runaway violence.

The University “lent a hand”.

“In light of the University’s recent push to bolster its impact in Charlottesville, some members of the University who specialize in education attended the teacher work day meetings at Charlottesville High School.”

Seriously.  To “bolster (the University’s) impact in Charlottesville”.

For Black children in CCS schools, that influence, long-running and well-meaning though it has been, has turned out to have been a disaster unparalleled in the Commonwealth.

Voting. Charlottesville’s elected city council and school board align philosophically and directly with the University. Joseph Platania, the elected Commonwealth’s Attorney, is a restorative justice icon.  

That makes sense, really, because a very large slice of the voters who elect them are academic and medical staff, faculty and students at UVa.  

The University has almost 10,000 employees at the Charlottesville campus. It has over 17,000 students there. All are of voting age.  

The total population of Charlottesville was estimated at 45,373 in 2022. A total of 38,250 of those, swelled by university students claiming residency, were of voting age. More UVa students than you can imagine vote in Charlottesville. The census bureau asks only where they live the majority of the year.  

The University uses everything but cattle prods to get them to the local polls.  

Influence. Charlottesville, were it to resist UVa’s interests, would be in a cage match with a much more powerful and wealthier competitor. The cage is the ten square miles of the city.

As the University has expanded and continues to do so, the city cannot. Irresistible force meets inelastic object.

With the University community’s demand for residential housing within walking/bicycle distance of the Lawn continually increasing faster than supply, and no undeveloped land in Charlottesville, the zoning decisions are tough.

Zoning changes generally bow to the University’s interests. As a recent editorial in The Cavalier Daily explained, the University is not a good neighbor.

Charlottesville reversion to town status. Someone once wrote that things that can’t go on forever will stop.

Charlottesville as a city is untenable. I will recommend that Charlottesville strongly consider reversion to town status within Albemarle County. Such a move is all upside for the city.

Albemarle County, with a population last year estimated at 114,534, half again the median household income of Charlottesville, and huge swaths of undeveloped land, is in an excellent position to make it work far better than the reversions Virginia has seen up to this point.

Under Virginia laws, Charlottesville, with a Census Bureau estimated population of 45,373, can revert without county permission.

Next, we will look next at the issues resulting in Black student failures to learn in more detail.

We will also look a lot closer at Charlottesville City Schools and the relationship between those schools and the University’s School of Education and Human Development (UVaEd).

It has produced unmatched failure for the very Black children whom both claim, and intend, to champion.

A major update was entered on Dec. 18, 2023 to reflect updates in the book version of this series.  Some of the text originally here was moved to part 2.


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94 responses to “Charlottesville, Its Public Schools and UVa – Part One – Bad things Happen”

  1. Turbocohen Avatar

    I better rehearse my speech.. The sheriff is near.

  2. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    Perhaps the Normals in Virginia should surround, isolate and contain Charlottesville. The same way Americans contained the Soviet Union, as George Kennan suggested.

    It took some time, but eventually the Soviet Union rotted away and collapsed in on itself.

    1. Build a wall?

      😉

      1. But it needs to be a nice serpentine wall to go with the rest of the Jeffersonian decor.

        1. Absolutely! I wouldn’t want it any other way.

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Well, at least they pay their property taxes…. oh, wait.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    so going along with your map, this is what it looks like on a per school basis.

    <50 means less than 50 students
    of that race.

    for reading in the elementary grades:

    School Name Race Pass Rate

    Burnley-Moran Elementary Black, <50
    Burnley-Moran Elementary White, 91.43

    Clark Elementary Black, 40.63
    Clark Elementary White, 64.52

    Greenbrier Elementary Black, <50
    Greenbrier Elementary White, 85.07

    Jackson-Via Elementary Black, 47.06
    Jackson-Via Elementary White, 89.74

    Johnson Elementary Black, 38.1
    Johnson Elementary White, 88.37

    Venable Elementary Black, 23.81
    Venable Elementary White, 95.56

    Walker Upper Elementary Black, 34.67
    Walker Upper Elementary White, 86.04

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Again, exactly.

  5. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Lots of sweeping generalizations in this piece, with little to no evidence to support them. UVa has 10,000 employees. Ok. So, how many of those employees live within the boundaries of the city of Charlottesville? UVa. has 17,000 students. OK. You imply they all claim residency. Evidence? “More UVa students than you can imagine vote in Charlottesville.” Really? How many? Somehow, I doubt that college students are going to very concerned about city elections. The members of city council are elected on an at-large basis. This fall there were three seats up to be filled. There were three candidates. For the four at-large seats for the school board on the ballot, there were four candidates. It is sort of hard to make a case that any category of voters determines who gets elected.

    Assertion: “The University uses everything but cattle prods to get them [students] to the local polls.” Fact: In the last election, a total of 12,398 ballots were cast, a turnout rate of 36.6 percent. The most votes any candidate for city council or school board got was 8,937, a turnout rate of 26.4 percent. Those cattle prods must have been extremely low voltage.

    You claim that “many CPS teachers have their bachelors and/or advanced degrees from UVa’s School of Education and Human Development.” You then doubled down on this claim: “The teachers have far more advanced degrees, most from UVa’s ed school, than the average school division.” Evidence?

    Finally, you assert, “The city is at the mercy of the University by virtue of the latter’s wealth, influence and power in Charlottesville elections.” As a result, you say, “Zoning changes generally bow to the University’s interests.” However, the one example you provide belies this claim. According to the linked article, the University opposed a proposed zoning change. Nevertheless, the planning commission unanimously approved the proposal and sent it on to city council for review and action.

    I am sympathetic with your argument regarding the schools. One would think that a progressive city like Charlottesville would do a better job teaching its minority students.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You will notice, if you read it again, that this is the first part of a series.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        The second part will be the retractions followed by errata for the third.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          No acknowledgements will be forthcoming.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            In a long bygone comment I told the Captain the worst invention of man was Microsoft Word and the “copy&paste” ability.

          2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            Anybody care about the fates of those kids? Didn’t think so.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Just you.

    2. Not Today Avatar

      “I am sympathetic with your argument regarding the schools. One would think that a progressive city like Charlottesville would do a better job teaching its minority students.”

      Agreed. Also, many are constrained by state legislatures.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I am appalled at the “gap” – in the same school … how can that be?

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Thank you. You are right to be appalled.

          That is exactly the point I was making.

          I will try to illuminate some of the reasons in future articles in this series.

          Thanks again.

        2. Not Today Avatar

          Often because of tracking, household composition, education and income (education and wealth being a determinant of books in the home and overall stability). Sherlock touched on NONE of those determinants. My, personal, observation has been that the teaching cadre that staff most schools aren’t well equipped to speak to their diverse charges from lived experience and with confidence/authenticity. When I was a student in an urban, majority-minority school, our (also) majority-minority teachers were STRICT and no-nonsense.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            perhaps reality but makes one wonder what the school district should do to address it.

          2. Not Today Avatar

            Teaching is unattractive to most highly-skilled minority students. My teachers were the last of those who had no other options. Now, those who can don’t teach because they’re highly compensated and sought after by other employers. Then, it was a different story. Teachers (as I was for my own children for MANY years) need to be highly skilled, highly respected, and NOT micromanaged. We don’t respect the (largely) women who do this work and too few decent people willingly march into that fray. Those I know who excelled in the profession are now in leadership and not in front of kids (not because they prefer it but b/c it pays the bills). The lack of respect for women is a recurring theme in modern American life.

          3. Not Today Avatar

            Teaching is unattractive to most highly-skilled minority students. My teachers were the last of those who had no other options. Now, those who can don’t teach because they’re highly compensated and sought after by other employers. Then, it was a different story. Teachers (as I was for my own children for MANY years) need to be highly skilled, highly respected, and NOT micromanaged. We don’t respect the (largely) women who do this work and too few decent people willingly march into that fray. Those I know who excelled in the profession are now in leadership and not in front of kids (not because they prefer it but b/c it pays the bills). The lack of respect for women is a recurring theme in modern American life.

          4. Not Today Avatar

            Teaching is unattractive to most highly-skilled minority students. My teachers were the last of those who had no other options. Now, those who can don’t teach because they’re highly compensated and sought after by other employers. Then, it was a different story. Teachers (as I was for my own children for MANY years) need to be highly skilled, highly respected, and NOT micromanaged. We don’t respect the (largely) women who do this work and too few decent people willingly march into that fray. Those I know who excelled in the profession are now in leadership and not in front of kids (not because they prefer it but b/c it pays the bills). The lack of respect for women is a recurring theme in modern American life.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            ….. meanwhile… back at the ranch…. doesn’t sound like an easy fix… and the bad cycle will continue….

          6. Not Today Avatar

            Definitely not an easy fix. The nuances don’t lend themselves nearly as well to demagoguery as “DEM CITIES=BAD” pronouncements. Town/gown relations are hard for most schools. Stanford’s were HORRIBLE when I was an undergrad with many of the same issues as the UVa article cites–largely because the faculty, staff, and students had little in common with, and little desire to work in support of, the local community. UChicago is expanding on the southside right now and gives off similarly clueless and malignant vibes. These things can change but only with good will, collaboration and intentional respect for history. Sherlock is not a proponent of that.

          7. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            You touched on one of the weaknesses in the system that I have long lamented. The good teachers get promoted out of the classroom. There needs to be a way to reward good teachers by basing pay on quality rather than seniority or number of advanced degrees.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar

            All things considered, one presumes the teachers that actually stay in the classroom.. the white kids get good scores and the black kids not so much.

            same teacher, same classroom…. no?

          9. Not Today Avatar

            Personally, I feel it’s part and parcel of a political ideology that women can’t be trusted to manage or operate their own bodies, lives or children (and certainly not anyone else’s). Keep ’em poor, stupid, financially dependent and pregnant (willingly or no). When they’re too old for that, marginalize/demonize them as crazy, uppity, ugly, witches.

          10. Not Today Avatar

            Personally, I feel it’s part and parcel of a political ideology that women can’t be trusted to manage or operate their own bodies, lives or children (and certainly not anyone else’s). Keep ’em poor, stupid, financially dependent and pregnant (willingly or no). When they’re too old for that, marginalize/demonize them as crazy, uppity, ugly, witches.

          11. Not Today Avatar

            Personally, I feel it’s part and parcel of a political ideology that women can’t be trusted to manage or operate their own bodies, lives or children (and certainly not anyone else’s). Keep ’em poor, stupid, financially dependent and pregnant (willingly or no). When they’re too old for that, marginalize/demonize them as crazy, uppity, ugly, witches. If you pay teachers too much, they have CHOICES and the profession becomes dominated by smart, opinionated people who wield their own power/spheres of influence in uncontrollable ways. There’s a reason dictators and zealots on the right and left come for the academy/teachers.

          12. LarrytheG Avatar

            I’d fear for my life if I said something to that effect around some ladies I know!

            😉

          13. Not Today Avatar

            You hang out in good company. Too many don’t and take silence for consent.

    3. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      I think the official Jim Ryan run to the polls event on the Tuesday morning of the elections was a little more than “encouragement” for the activist admitted and rewarded students…
      Meanwhile, the housing “crisis” in Cville is entirely the overpaid UVA employees.
      There is definitely a chicken or the egg – is Cville screwed up because of UVA, or is it screwed up all on its own with its hippie Antifa vibe? Symbiotic?

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Wait until I tell you about the donuts.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          What? No walking around money?

        2. Not Today Avatar

          Right. Donuts. I’m just gonna park this here and let you ponder your journalistic cred on your own time. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/25/aaron-sibarium-conservative-media-00117899

          These quotes are lethal…

          “It’s rare to see someone who will cover something like, say, race-based treatment of Covid drugs … who also is like not a crank and has an IQ above 120,” Sibarium says, cracking half a smile. 

          Also,

          When it comes to conservative media’s “talent problem,” Sibarium says it’s “partly education polarization, resulting in there just being fewer overall smart conservatives.” (Research backs up his assertion that liberals are, on average, more intelligent and more educated.) To Sibarium, who graduated from Yale in 2018, it’s obvious there are fewer “smart” conservatives than liberals — just look at how few conservatives attend elite colleges: “It does not seem plausible that the reason liberals are so overrepresented at elite schools … is entirely due to liberal bias.” After all, he says, it is conservatives who insist disparities do not imply discrimination.

    4. “I am sympathetic with your argument regarding the schools. One would think that a progressive city like Charlottesville would do a better job teaching its minority students.”

      Aren’t most urban schools run by progressives?

    5. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You got me. I spent four years at UVa and never realized that any employee lived in Albemarle County. Learn something new every day.

      As for the Cavalier Daily op ed I linked, read it again. Look at the link in that article. It is titled:
      “U.Va. is not a good neighbor — and Charlottesville pays the price.” https://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2023/11/duregger-u-va-is-not-a-good-neighbor-and-charlottesville-pays-the-price?ct=content_open&cv=cbox_featured

      Perhaps the title will give you a clue.

      I chose not to remake in this introductory article the arguments in the op-ed to which I linked. I will get to some of them in later episodes in this series.

      As for the University’s get out the local vote effort, you clearly know nothing about it. I will help you understand when I expose the details.

      Finally, as for your concession:

      “I am sympathetic with your argument regarding the schools. One would think that a progressive city like Charlottesville would do a better job teaching its minority students.”

      “One would think”. Can I deduct that you think?

      If so, I accomplished something.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I see that you ignored most of my comments and declined to provide any evidence to back your claims.

      2. These days many faculty live a distance away from campus and only commute on certain days – or teach and conduct research remotely from almost anywhere in the world. Typically staff members live quite a distance from work because they don’t earn enough to compete with medical, legal, and other faculty for housing. Generally, faculty do not seek to live in the same complex or building with students, seeking a quieter lifestyle. Those who are adjunct faculty likely can’t afford to live in town for what they earn. It has been many years since all faculty lived in walking distance of campus – anywhere. I expect a much higher percentage of faculty live outside even Albemarle county than you realize. I expect it will also be difficult to get the data to prove it one way or the other.

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          It could be done, but it would be tedious or require some computer power. Get a list of UVa employees/faculty and compare it to the list of registered voters in Charlottesville. The same approach could be done with students.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            I would ask if the same dynamic would not be present in a lot of “college” towns.

            Does Blacksburg have similar issues for instance?

          2. Not sure. Two things, though:

            1) Blacksburg is not a city. Its schools are part of the Montgomery County School System.

            2) Montgomery County school demographics are something like 75% white and 5% black.

            Perhaps the City of Harrisonburg (home to JMU) would be a better comparison? Or perhaps not – I know next to nothing of Harrisonburg’s demographics.

          3. Not sure. Two things, though:

            1) Blacksburg is not a city. Its schools are part of the Montgomery County School System.

            2) Montgomery County school demographics are something like 75% white and 5% black.

            Perhaps the City of Harrisonburg (home to JMU) would be a better comparison? Or perhaps not – I know next to nothing of Harrisonburg’s demographics.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            several college towns in Va…

        2. Anecdotally, I have a friend who commuted from Richmond to C’ville as a staff member at UVa for about 7 years. The rush hour traffic on I64 was a pain. He was not alone.

        3. Anecdotally, I have a friend who commuted from Richmond to C’ville as a staff member at UVa for about 7 years. The rush hour traffic on I64 was a pain. He was not alone.

    6. Dick, regarding Charlottesville electoral dynamics…. surely you jest.

      2021 Youngkin/McAuliffe vote tally:

      Youngkin — 16%
      McAuliffe — 83%
      Blanding — 1%

      Charlottesville is literally the bluest jurisdiction in the commonwealth. Seriously, do you question the fact that such political predominance is due to the presence of UVa?

      (By the way, Albemarle, is also one of the bluest localities in Virginia, just not in the undiluted form that Charlottesville is.)

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    The black/white “gap” as appalling as it is, is not a one-off. Many
    schools in Virginia have similar gaps though not quite as stark as Cville.. others within a few points.. same church different pew.

    So these are single school districts – with one food chain to leadership.

    Many of the white scores in Cville are exemplary – near the top
    of the scale – even as there is a 30-40 point gap in the SAME school with the same absentee number.

    See similar in Henrico, Chesterfield and other multi-school districts in Va.

    Are the black kids who get the awful scores taught in the same classroom as the top scoring white kids?

    Is there “tracking” occurring?

    Do the black kids miss more school than the white kids?

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      They are not serious about reform Mr. Larry. Left or right. Nobody wants to roll up their sleeves and do the hard work needed. School systems such as CPS and Richmond and Petersburg would rather double down on existing practices than reverse course. We are witnessing a failed system consuming itself. Students are the casualties. No remedy is readily available for another 4 years.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I’m also looking at places like Henrico and Chesterfield that have similar issues. Even places
        like Fairfax has these issues. We have black kids and white kids in the SAME school and the
        blacks kids have a GAP on achievement.. many schools, many counties.

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          This has been going on for years. Your team owns public education now. Don’t know what to tell you. Nobody is serious about addressing the myriad of issues. The politicians have already collected what they needed.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            yep. But how do two kids are in the same classroom being taught by the same teacher end up with a 40 point gap? or is that not what is happening?

          2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Yep. And this year it might be a 50 point gap. Go Blue Team Go! Wish you guys all the best.

          3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            I thought Republicans occupied the governor’s office, a majority on the Board of Education, and the top education positions in the state.

          4. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            The local school board runs the local schools. Die hard blue in the districts with high public school enrollment. We both know that. As for the Republicans at the top of the education food chain? They are out of ideas too.

          5. K12 schools are staffed and administered locally, but you surely know that.

            Statewide elected officials can have a positive or negative impact, but the local administration is key.

            When we moved to Virginia, schools were a major factor in determining where we would live.

  7. I don’t understand how anything bad could happen in a school system where almost 90% of the students are gifted…

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      And all the women strong?

      1. Of course.

  8. Jim, I’m 99% on board with where you’re going with this column. The only thing I’d add at this point is that UVa’s “progressive” political influence extends to Albemarle County. Sure, schools in Albemarle (a suburban locality) compare well to the City of Charlottesville (an older urban center), but so do schools in i>every suburban locality compared to their urban-core peers. How does Albemarle compare to other suburban localities? Albemarle schools are plagued by the same disastrous thinking as Cville schools.

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      Albemarle always seemed like the mini me of Loudoun.

    2. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Albemarle is no beacon of sanity, either. It used to be landed gentry types, but now has a ton of made big money in NYC and came back to the beautiful area, along with the UVA element.
      Big money was spent just to beat Scalia’s daughter for a school board race in Albemarle. Like JWW mentions below, very Loudoun-ish. And of course a W&L prof was involved to ensure the Scalia daughter (Meg Bryce?) defeat because she was also affiliated with Moms for Liberty, which, as everyone knows is a terrorist organization and transphobic and had to be defeated to protect the kids in Albemarle.
      You know, if they really wanted to protect the kids in Albemarle from danger, the Scalia haters might look in the mirror… but they can’t comprehend that they might, could, just possibly be not as virtuous as they think they are…

    3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      I can’t fix Albemarle County’s progressive bent, but I referred in that part of the article not to schools issues, but to City Council issues like tax base, poverty, zoning and housing for the poor. If I did not make that clear I should have.

      1. Truth be told, you can’t fix Charlottesville’s progressive bent, either. Only Charlottesville can – and most of the people there seem to be happy the way things are.

  9. Albemarle County public schools have three times the students than the City of Charlottesville has with a much larger percentage that is whites. When looking at the numbers, it would appear that the higher paid employees of the university do not live in the city.

    1. And why would they?

      1. If they have children, there is no reason.

    2. I do not doubt that many of UVa’s higher paid staff live outside the city. However, in city real estate prices are so high that it is precisely those higher paid employees who can afford to live in Charlottesville.

  10. Good overview, I’m looking forward to the entire series.

    A couple of notes.

    First, and one I harp on, is C’ville categorizing 86% of its students as “gifted”. The SOL numbers sure don’t support that. Makes one wonder what other measures they are relying on that have no rational basis. Students qualified as “gifted” by taking the SOLs and by responding when addressed in class. Really. That is an interesting definition of “gifted”.

    Second, C’ville real estate is very pricey. Many lower wage workers have had to move out of the city to find affordable housing. That makes the SOL differential even more stark. Years ago C’ville cleared out a big part of it’s poor black population when it urban renewed Vinegar Hill. That is still an ugly scar. That also means that Albemarle may have a similar racial mix to C’ville and make comparison of their respective SOLs informative.

    Third, seems you’ve got it with the woke domination. The recent open meeting about CHS put on by a “community” group started with a statement that no one could even discuss reinstating school resource officers that were removed in ’20 because police brutality and systemic racism.

    Fourth, the differences in SOLs are shocking. The black scores look more like Baltimore than Richmond. Do you think parents are aware that their children are not learning? Are any kids failing grades and being held back, or are they passed on to the next grade for even greater incompetence.

    Fifth, absenteeism. There is no hope of teaching kids who are not there. It seems so obvious that it does not need saying. But, in C’ville close to a third of black students are chronically absent. Getting kids in class is where you’ve got to start. Until you do that nothing else matters. Years ago I was on a Superintendent’s advisory board in a rural county. A new superintendent came to town and looked around. High chronic absenteeism was at the top of his (lengthy) list. His first year was focused on getting kids to school. Only after he got kids to school could he focus on what was going on in class.

    That’s more than enough to start with. Have at it. Looks like C’ville may be the poster child for woke failure. It is a better model to study because it is small and does not have the problem of large scale, long standing urban black poverty that Richmond and Petersburg struggle with. The suffocating presence of the UVa school of education makes it a twofer. I think you have picked a uniquely qualified example to study. Very nice.

    Should be an interesting series. I’m stocking up on popcorn in anticipation.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Those are spot on issues. I hope I will address them to your satisfaction.

      1. Hunter Thompson Avatar
        Hunter Thompson

        Could you also address that UVa’s Campus (we call it grounds) is located in Albemarle County not the City. So no one living in on-grounds housing is a Charlottesville voter.

        Also since the Democratic Primary occurs in June almost no students vote in it and that is the real election for school board and Council since the entire slate was elected unopposed.

  11. Hunter Thompson Avatar
    Hunter Thompson

    What is striking is the fact that the author seems unaware that all UVa students that live on grounds actually live in Albemarle County and not the City of Charlottesville making his numbers not accurate and therefore his conclusions suspect.

  12. I never took the Cavalier Daily very seriously. Back in the ’70s we used to refer to it as the Cavalier Daily Worker.

    1. So, not much has changed in 50 years?

      1. No, only the names change. Instead of Trump or Bush being Nazis, it was Nixon and Reagan.

  13. Hunter Thompson Avatar
    Hunter Thompson

    What is striking is the fact that the author seems unaware that all UVa students that live on grounds actually live in Albemarle County and not the City of Charlottesville making his numbers not accurate and therefore his conclusions suspect.
    Also the real election to Charlottesville City office occur in June in the democratic primary when very few students are still in Charlottesville

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Anyone who actually drives the residential areas of Cville will see just how dense and jumbled many areas are and even then cost like the devil.

      Older larger homes are now apts…

      and the upscale places that are still intact
      are not for your average UVA salary.

      It’s easy to go to the outlying county to get decent and affordable housing…

      And it’s not just Albemarle that UVA folks
      commute to… Places like Nelson and Fluvanna, Green, etc…

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9fc6533b342512afaa5158faf3b1b810f9ef0b98712b86e6488813b20d008d96.png

      1. Hunter Thompson Avatar
        Hunter Thompson

        While many UVa employees live in the City many new residents are retirees, covid refugees, and those employed by investment and bio tech business scattered around Charlottesville

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Yes and they can afford it! UVA Higher Ed and Medical are huge enterprises that need
          a lot of lower-paid labor. Where do they live?

    2. UVa seems to be within the city limits of the City of Charlottesville. Please explain how that makes people who reside there residents of the surrounding county? Virginia, unlike many states, makes cities independent of the counties that border them,

      1. Hunter Thompson Avatar
        Hunter Thompson

        Since an act of the legislature in the 30’s all of the grounds including the Rotunda, dorms and other buildings have been part of Albemarle County. The Medical Center is in the City. Just google it. That means that anyone who lives in a dorm room or on the lawn VOTES in Albemarle County

        1. Interesting, learn something new every day. Tku. Wickipedia says UVa “straddles the border” and notes say it is mostly in Albemarle.

          Which jurisdiction are the dorms in, and where is most of the off campus housing? That may explain why Albemarle tends to vote very blue too.

          I have seen city police at demonstrations on the UVa campus, not Albemarle deputies. The localities seem to have decided whose jurisdiction the school and its surrounds are in, and that is Charlottesville.

          1. Hunter Thompson Avatar
            Hunter Thompson

            The impact of student voting isn’t why Albemarle is blue. It is blue in every district of it’s 700 sq miles. it is a reliable 60/40 dem split in nearly every election.

            as to police officers at JPJ and Scott stadium you will see state troopers and Albemarle deputies. If you taking about August 11-12 the demonstration that was all officers on deck. County, City and State.

          2. The one in particular I am personally aware of was a number of years ago at a demonstration when John Yoo gave a lecture on campus. It was 100% city police, and they were very prominent. I can post a picture of them in a show of force and photographing the crowd.

            That day I had a pleasant interchange with the chief who was sitting discreetly off to the side. He helpfully directed me how to find my car when I got lost. I only imagined the don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out of town.

          3. Hunter Thompson Avatar
            Hunter Thompson

            UVa Police are a small force and are headed by the former chief of Charlottesville police. It is not uncommon for the city to be called in for events like that on main grounds. City police where called in on August 11th 2017 for the protest on the Lawn as well

          4. Former chief is who I talked to.

            and whatever happened to the Shark convertible in F&LinLV?

        2. LarrytheG Avatar

          Yes. Charlottesville is a tiny compared to Albemarle and much of the development that appears to be Cville is not -it’s Albemarle:

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d757b3461abda4c33b1881799d9917450a61e93c0042bc3b34b95f615ec1a816.png

    3. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Most students do not live in Albemarle.
      Here is the map of Cville limits –
      https://opendata.charlottesville.org/datasets/municipal-boundary-area/explore
      No Gonzo journalism here! (Unless you actually do say something correct) UVA sponsored a run to the polls on election morning. Student voting was encouraged. Cville is liberal enough without the “help” of students. And I do wonder how much everywhere students vote at their schools and back in their home States.
      “It’s just a drop in the bucket” say the people who promote cheating – but it is still cheating. And add up hundreds and thousands of cheats, and you affect outcomes on the margin.

      1. Hunter Thompson Avatar
        Hunter Thompson

        You were so close- this is the map that shows students on grounds are in albemarle https://opendata.charlottesville.org/datasets/charlottesville::parcel-boundary-area/explore?location=38.040046%2C-78.485150%2C14.63
        btw the map has exactly the same boundaries as the city map in the article above.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          How does that show the students are in Albemarle? The old dorms do not represent all the students, nor do that many live on the Lawn or the Range. They clearly live throughout Cville. But I guess Jim Ryan’s run to the polls event at Venable was just for grins, huh?

          1. Hunter Thompson Avatar
            Hunter Thompson

            Here is the voting precinct map: https://opendata.charlottesville.org/datasets/voting-precinct-area/explore?location=38.048151%2C-78.449546%2C13.00

            Zoom in and you will clearly see that Carr’s hill – old dorms, new dorms, lambeth and many other uva dorms are located outside the maps boundary. I am not aware of any UVa owned dorm that is located in the City’s political boundaries. Conversely almost all non uva student housing is located in the City proper.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            The folks that provide services like janitorial, food service, maintenance, etc…to UVA…
            fastfood, trash pickup, etc, where do they live?

            Are they the parents of the kids who are failing the SOLs in Cville?

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Yes…which means a substantial portion…I would say a majority, lives in the City, and Jim Ryan had an event leading them to the Venable polling place. All true. And the schools really suck. That’s true too. UVA’s influence has nothing to do with that? It certainly does as to the cost of housing and limited availability. Want to increase “affordable housing in Cville?” Remove 50% of the UVA administrative staff…

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