The Church Lady’s Worst Nightmare

In his latest Rob Is Right video, Rob Smith gives his spin on the deliberately provocative After-School Satan Club at B.M. Williams Primary School in Chesapeake. I’m not sure I agree with him in the final analysis — free speech extends to those with whom we disagree, even to those we think are raving idiots — but he lands some good punches and vividly illustrates the lunacy of the age we live in.


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27 responses to “The Church Lady’s Worst Nightmare”

  1. vicnicholls Avatar

    I should post a few more things. Then folks would understand why the all but 1 seat on the SB and CC are R – and why this happens.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I suppose that you would want to suspend a part of the Constitution in order to prevent this club from using a school.

  2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Chesapeake allowed the Child Evangelism Fellowship to establish an after-school club, the Good News Club, in an elementary school. The Fellowship says its purpose is to “evangelize boys and girls with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Under the U.S. Constitution, governments cannot favor one religion over another. Therefore, if a group calling itself the After-School Satan Club comes along and also asks to establish a club in that elementary school, the school board has no choice but to agree.

    Even Del. Tim Anderson, an attorney and the very conservative member of the General Assembly from Virginia Beach agrees with that position. As he said on his Facebook page, “You probably find a Satan Club objectionable. However, there are Bible clubs, Muslim clubs, Jewish clubs who use public school facilities all the time. Can we really object? I don’t think so. It’s the definition of the First Amendment.”

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      You’ve been prepared for this since 2007. Well, I have been…

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    “The outgoing Senate leader told a series of stories during his speech, including one about reaching his hand into a Senate toilet to test the water temperature after noticing warmth in the bathroom.

    “I put my hand in it, and it was hot water,” Shirkey said. “So I went back to the office and said, ‘Please, get a hold of maintenance staff around here and ask them why taxpayers are paying for hot water in our toilets.”

  4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    That’s one high quality video production there…. scraping the bottom for content these days, JAB…?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      looks to be echo chamber stuff…

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        It’s hymn time…

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      It’s a video blog or vlog. I think the quality is well above average for the genre. You may not like the commentary but the use of clips, etc is good for an amateur vlogger.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        A high school production at one of California’s or New York’s magnets for the performing arts…

  5. Didn’t we cover this in great detail a couple of days ago?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      I think it was cover in great detail since 1960-something. JAB called it a nightmare in his first title.

    2. Yes, I thought we did. Rights must be given to all, including those with whom we disagree. Dead horse, so stop beating it.

      The Satanic after school group was clearly an attack against Christians in general, and Evangelical Christians in particular. It may be legal, but I’ve read much condemnation on this site about other things that while they may be legal, are also despicable.

      If similar tactics and graphic imagery to were to have been directed against Muslims, Hindus, etc., how would that be covered in the news media? What would the conversation be about it here?

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    No fair. Someone changed the title…

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    If the Boy Scouts formed an after-school club, should the school deny the Girl Scouts?

    1. At an elementary school? Absolutely. Girls have cooties when you’re in elementary school…

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      or Unite the Right kids with kid-sized tiki torches?

      In the end, what we KNOW , is that this is NOT ABOUT the “kids” at all.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Uh yep. But it’s a recurring nightmare. A psychiatrist could tell you that reoccurrence is a sign that something’s wrong with your brain…

    Seek help.

    “Recurring nightmares usually have an underlying cause. Sometimes, this cause can be related to stress or anxiety, medication use, or even substance abuse. If you feel that recurring nightmares are affecting your quality of life, reach out to a doctor or mental health professional.”

  9. Dallas Lama Avatar
    Dallas Lama

    To be fair, I don’t think Rob is against Free Speech here. As he pointed out, the Founder of the Satanic Temple knows this is a Poison Pill and weaponizes Free Speech against the Community. Communities have dealt with this by simply shutting down all clubs. What happens is this: Platform After School Satan and hurt your reputation OR Shut Down All Clubs. Many simply choose the latter.

    The Community wouldn’t be upset if it was Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, or any other traditional religion’s club. The Community wouldn’t be upset if this was Logic and Reason Club or Science Club. The Satanic Temple purposefully goes around being a nuisance. Everyone is framing this as a 1st Amendment Issue when in reality I think this is more about how communities should handle bad actors?

    1. I largely agree, with the following exception.

      Dallas Lama:
      “Everyone is framing this as a 1st Amendment Issue when in reality I think this is more about how communities should handle bad actors?”

      With the edits blow, I would agree. How about this?

      Almost everyone is framing this as solely a 1st Amendment Issue …”

      “Almost” was added because some have already made similar points.

      “Solely” was added as there are definitely 1st Amendment issues involved.

      Overall, I certainly agree, and don’t understand why hateful bigotry against a particular religious group can’t be universally condemned.

      1. Dallas Lama Avatar
        Dallas Lama

        So are the Satanists hateful towards the Christians? Or are the Christians hateful towards the Satanists? Or is it both?

        Rose posted the memes wanting to give the Virgin Mary a coat hanger abortion and mocking Crucifixion. That seems pretty hateful to me. The Satanists say they are passionate and empathetic people yet she posts violent filth.

        Does a religion have the same validity as older ones when it was established in the 60s? I’m an ethnic Tibetan and practicing Buddhist and we can trace our history back 600 years before Christ. My religion is 43x older than hers. We have libraries of canonical texts. We have thousands of years of history. We have great buildings and statues that people travel from across the world to see. No Historian would say we aren’t a religion. 100 years from now, will the Satanic Temple even still be around? Where are the great works of the Satanic Temple? Who are their intellectuals? I see petty people who simply hate anyone with faith gaming the system. BAD ACTORS. They are the bigots.

        1. You might also take a look at my comment on another thread which said:

          “The Satanic after school group was clearly an attack against Christians in general, and Evangelical Christians in particular. It may be legal, but I’ve read much condemnation on this site about other things that while they may be legal, are also despicable.”

        2. “They are the bigots”

          Which is what I said too. I believe my exact words were “hateful bigotry“. I was directing that at the Satanist who was attacking Christians. Sorry if that was not clear.

          “I’m an ethnic Tibetan and practicing Buddhist…”

          This is somewhat of a change of subject, but I have long believed that if any group on Earth deserves to have its own independent state, it is Tibet. Unfortunately, others who are much less deserving get the overwhelming amount of world attention.

          These days, the most violent get the attention. That’s not how it should work.

  10. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    This is not just me defending my “little” brother. I think everybody is missing the point. I don’t believe he ever said she did not have the right to speak or the right to start a club. Wow. Good to see all the Lefties wailing about free speech. Now let’s talk about Twitter, shadow banning, throttling and still having to cheat so SlowJoe could “win.”
    I think his point is if you look behind her public statements of “fun,” you find a deeply disturbed person, who, besides hating Christianity, which she is free to do, seems to be an outright Satanist, and may not be safe to be at a school.
    Her desire to start a club is like forcing the baker to bake a “gay” cake. It is not about baking the cake – it is about shutting up the message of people she hates. Anyone find the picture with a baby in a roasting tray going into the oven disturbing? Let her start her club – no one will attend, and maybe we can get Project Veritas there to record her insanity. She is crazy and hate-filled, but that pretty much describes all of Leftism…

    Meanwhile, I encourage people to check out his videos on the University of Richmond. UofR’s de-naming spree has tarnished people who deserve better, if their true histories were known, and among those dead people betrayed was our great great grandfather and his two sons (great uncles?). UofR violated its own “naming principles” and policies and procedures when the Board rubber-stamped the Marxists. We want our day in court, which we were supposed to have, according to their own stupid, Marxist policies. But the President is a coward and a liar and won’t respond and won’t turn over the documents. At least with UVA you can try to get accountability through FOIA, but there is no way UofR is worth $77,000 a year. I think UVA is doing its best to make about $35,000 a year (tuition, food, lodging) not worth it!

  11. This post is solely for the edification of Church Lady, should she be monitoring comments on this blog.

    “Over the course of several centuries of influence from many different cultures, the defeated Accuser of the Christians would go on to appropriate aspects of various divine enemies (Typhon, Hades, Ahriman, Hela, to name but a few) to become the complex mythological monster that was thrown out of heaven at the beginning of time to rule the fiery underworld and torment the souls of the damned. Such a character makes for great movies and Halloween costumes, but would have been virtually unknown to anyone in Biblical times.”

    Why did I post that? Let’s just say:

    The devil made me do it!

  12. Fred Costello Avatar
    Fred Costello

    Freedom of speech does not mean that all speech is permissible under the law. We are free to do what is good and right, not what is bad and wrong. If the Satan Club promotes what is good and right, it should be permitted. Instead, the Satan Club seems oriented toward attacking Christianity – certainly not Islam – without any proof that Christianity is bad or wrong. Its opinions are not proof. Similarly, a Christian club should not be allowed if it attacked Judaism.

    1. I think the video actually makes a good point about the leader of the After School Satan Club being someone who’s hardly suitable to lead a children’s group endorsed by the school.

      “Christian club should not be allowed if it attacked Judaism.”

      Or anyone else’s sincere faith. Primary school clubs should be about reinforcing positive values, not creating attack dogs.

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