Arlington’s Monument to Peace and Reconciliation Slated for Demolition

Cherry trees bloom in Jackson Circle around the Confederate Monument in Section 16 of Arlington National Cemetery. The Confederate Monument was unveiled June 4, 1914, according to the ANC website. (Arlington National Cemetery photo by Rachel Larue)

by Robin Traywick Williams

It is dangerous these days to advocate for anything even tangentially associated with the words “Confederate,” but after almost three years of monument-bashing, it might be worth discussing where this is going. In addition to Lee, Stuart and nameless soldiers on courthouse lawns, Columbus, Lincoln, and Juniper Serra have all fallen. Will the country take a deep breath and consider whether significant works of art bear saving because of their historical and cultural value or will self-appointed arbiters of righteous thinking move on, unrestrained, to burning Monticello and imploding the slave-built White House?

The Naming Commission has submitted its final report, and not surprisingly, it recommends the renaming or removal from military installations of every item related to the Civil War, down to the last toenail clipping. The panel of eight political appointees was nothing if not thorough, finding offense even in the use of the color gray on military insignia as well as in the name of a Confederate horse.

Renaming bases and removing prints of Civil War battles is one thing—the hallowed ground of Ft. Benning will remain, and there are thousands of reproduction prints—but the Commission has taken the astonishing step of recommending the demolition of a culturally and historically important work of art by an internationally-renowned artist—in Arlington Cemetery, no less.

On the block is the Confederate Memorial to Reconciliation and Reunification, which is on the National Register of Historic Places as a contributing part of the Arlington National Cemetery Historic District. Created by one of America’s most celebrated artists, Sir Moses Ezekiel, the monument was endorsed by four presidents and dedicated by Woodrow Wilson at an event attended by veterans of the North and South, who shook hands and embraced.

The monument recognizes an important moment in the evolution of the history of America, the spiritual and emotional reconciliation of two regions that had fought bitterly 50 years earlier. Although the country was technically reunified in 1865, the heavy hand of Reconstruction made reconciliation challenging, as Southerners struggled to rebuild their war-torn states under steep federal burdens. But in 1898, the sons and grandsons of Confederate soldiers joined the U.S. Army in large numbers to help fight the Spanish-American War. President McKinley, himself a Union veteran, saw an opportunity to bind up the nation’s wounds with a generous show of gratitude towards the South. Congress concurred, and provision was made for proper treatment of Confederate graves, including re-interment of hundreds in Section 16 of Arlington Cemetery.

Ezekiel’s impressive monument, designed in his Italian workshop, was part of this effort. Topped by a female figure wearing an olive wreath, holding a pruning hook and leaning on a plowshare and surrounded by dignified human figures representative of the Southern experience, the monument forms an integral part of the design of the Confederate section. As such, it is part of an open-air museum. Among various inscriptions on the monument are the words: “And they shall beat their swords into ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks.” Ezekiel, a Jewish VMI graduate and a veteran himself, is buried at the foot of the monument with three others, making his chef d’oeuvre his grave marker as well.

One important tool we have for understanding the past is to study contemporaneous art. The towering figure of a woman signifying “peace” on top sends a powerful message. The figures girdling the base are all peacefully linked. The monument was hailed all around as indicative of the much-wished-for future of sectional comity. Destroying it dishonors the veterans who embraced reconciliation and desecrates the surrounding graves.

So powerful was the feeling of reconciliation that Arlington Memorial Bridge, built in the same era, was purposefully laid out to connect the Lincoln Memorial with Arlington House, Robert E. Lee’s wife’s former home, as another symbol of national reconciliation. Ironically, the bridge has just received a multi-million-dollar restoration, while the namesake monument is scheduled for a multi-million-dollar demolition.

You don’t have to love the Confederacy to realize that destroying a monument to peace and reconciliation after the most wrenching event in our nation’s history is wrong.

Historians, art critics and everyday people continuously debate their interpretations of art and history. Original source material is critical to those debates. That is why we put such a premium on historic preservation. But if historical artifacts are deliberately destroyed, the debate is cut short and a one-sided narrative is imposed.

Of course that is what the destroyers want. Government-sponsored demolition of this international work of art smacks of the primitive cleansing of history by authoritarian regimes like the Taliban and ISIS. Or the Chinese Communists.

Congress passed the act creating the innocuous-sounding Naming Commission at the height of the monument-bashing orgy and set up a process designed to reach the pre-determined outcome quickly, before anyone could have second thoughts. The Arlington Cemetery Advisory committee, which has some authority, refused even to take public comment, and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin promptly approved the report (obligating $62 million in Pentagon funds). However, legal steps by DefendArlington.org are being taken in an attempt to force reconsideration.

Reaching for an excuse for this barbaric recommendation, the Naming Commission interprets the presentation of the figures around the base as a “sanitized” picture of slavery. But the monument is not about slavery, and perhaps that is the problem. For the commission and its adherents, everything is about slavery. It doesn’t serve their purposes to admit the complexity of events surrounding the Civil War, such as the North’s profiteering from the slave trade and slave-produced cotton and Lincoln’s commitment to preserving the Union. In their narrative, slavery was an exclusively Southern/Confederate thing, therefore all things Confederate must be expunged—as if that would solve modern problems. Such a simplistic view does a great disservice to the country as we grapple with the lingering impacts of the era.

Art is controversial. Our nation’s history is controversial. Both should be open for debate, but as with other issues, one faction would like to impose its own interpretation on everyone else. Americans are tired of tribalism and the hatred and division that it fosters. The Civil War veterans who helped dedicate the monument proved the country could be reunited and move forward. Too bad citizens of the 21st century want to go backwards.

Robin Traywick Williams is a Virginia author and journalist.


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178 responses to “Arlington’s Monument to Peace and Reconciliation Slated for Demolition”

  1. Jonathan DeWilicker Avatar
    Jonathan DeWilicker

    These actions are purely punitive in nature and targeted against any white person ever honored. The only school to not be renamed in Albemarle county after being put on “review” was Mary C Greer, who happened to be a woman of color. Make no mistake, this is simply part of the top down war by every level of government against the creators and maintainers of Western Civilization. No, blacks did not build this country. They were not the skilled masons, engineers, planners and laborers. They may have contributed some of the more basic work, such as excavation, but the myth that somehow slave masters all over the country stood over blacks while they build our cities and infrastructure is absolutely insane. The real laborers, many abused and let to die on the job sites were the lower rugs of society, such as the Chinese and Irish.

    If we continue to head down this path, you only need to look towards Rhodesia or South Africa to see where this ends for the white ancestors of those that actually built this country.

  2. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O'Keefe

    The word reconciliation and the idea behind it mean “transformation; itโ€™s the moving from a place of separation, hurt, and brokenness to a place of healing, wholeness, forgiveness, and reunion”. So it is ironic that this woke initiative ignores the meaning of this area of Arlington Cemetery. The past with all of its warts is still our history and the fact is that we are sinners.
    At some point we have to get past blaming racism for every flaw and fault.

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      But Woodrow Wilson’s overt racism is not an issue in the D.C. Metro Area, unlike at Princeton University. And, needless to say, America’s anti-racism crusader, the Washington Post, is pretty silent on this issue, sort of like it was for years with respect to Northam’s adult blackface conduct.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        FPOUTS Wilson can’t be that bad, they still have his bust on a coin and a bridge.

      2. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        FPOUTS Wilson can’t be that bad, they still have his bust on a coin and a bridge.

        1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          One editorial, which was followed by nothing further. Normally, the Post hammers over and over again.

          1. M. Purdy Avatar

            He was hammered, then the Wapo ended up supporting him because of his policies. It was the right call, because he did a bang up job overall (as I’m sure everyone on this website agrees;-))!

          2. I find it hard to believe that the WaPo supported Wilson’s re-segregation of the federal government.

          3. M. Purdy Avatar

            ha, yeah, was talking about Ralphy.

          4. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
            f/k/a_tmtfairfax

            No, my primary reference was to the Post’s silence on the WWMB. I only compared it to the Post’s general silence on Northam’s blackface. I agree that the Post dropped its insistence Northam resign because it liked his policies. The editorial board always has had different standards depending on the letter behind the individual’s name. Witness its recent editorial arguing that Biden has no statutory authority to forgive student loans but then argued that SCOTUS should not stop the loan cancelations.

          5. M. Purdy Avatar

            Got it. Yeah, Wilson is definitely controversial. My guess is that the WWMB will eventually be renamed, along with numerous other items named after him. But it’s fraught, because of his other contributions, unlike say many of the Confed. generals who are lionized.

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      On balance, this article presents a woke viewpoint. Whatโ€™s the difference?

  3. As the comments to this post make clear, advocates of tearing down the statue are not remotely interested in reconciliation — not the reconciliation associated with admitting the Confederate states back into the union and knitting the country back together, or reconciliation today.

  4. Lefty665 Avatar

    Just commenting on your past racist statements that you seem to be following up on here.

    Acknowledging a disability is the first step to overcoming it.

  5. M. Purdy Avatar

    What allegedly racist statement was that? I can’t recall, because your initial name-calling was a total non sequitur, which is pretty much par for the course with you.

  6. M. Purdy Avatar

    What allegedly racist statement was that? I can’t recall, because your initial name-calling was a total non sequitur, which is pretty much par for the course with you.

  7. Matt Adams Avatar
    Matt Adams

    He’s most likely what we referred to as a Blue Falcon.

    He also clearly doesn’t know what an ad hom attack is, because this is the second time he’s been okay with one in the last two weeks.

  8. When will the US Military delete/scrub/erase all Native American names/references… as those people also Lost their fight against the Union and many enslaved the other Native Americans defeated in battle? How can we continue to honor such heinous behavior?

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      I agree! Deconstruct all monuments erected to honor Native American Confederate Soldiers…

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        That would include the Stand Watie Monument at the Cherokee County Courthouse in Tahlequah, Oklahoma. Let’s be consistent.

        And the powers that be should have listened to the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) and the Ladies of the Hollywood Memorial Association that opposed reburial of Confederate soldiers at Arlington. That fact does, however, suggest to me that the efforts to rebury the dead Rebels and place the Moses’ monument at Arlington by northern elected official was driven by reconciliation.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Yes, I agreeโ€ฆ Monuments to Stand Watie should go to be consistentโ€ฆ in that case, the call is up to the locals in the endโ€ฆ

          1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
            f/k/a_tmtfairfax

            Agree that local governments should make decisions about what is on property owned by such entities.

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Come again? NAs lost their fight against the Union? They fought Manifest Destiny and earlier dispossession from their habitats. 1984 lives!!!

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        What is amazing to me is how some folks CHOOSE to view these things – no matter what the facts are… they just believe what they wish to believe…

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Advocates can always find website info to sustain views, erroneous or not. Then there exists the deletion of articles to remove targets of criticism. Finally, thereโ€™s the usual irrational interpretation reading of history to support a view.

    3. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Were native americans fighting to preserve their ability/”right” to enslave other humans?

    4. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      The Cherokee also fought for the Confederacy during the Civil War.

  9. Thomas Dixon Avatar
    Thomas Dixon

    Stolen elections have consequences.

    1. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Or just elections where your preferred candidates are outvoted? I’ve endured many. Welcome to the club.

  10. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    โ€œThe Northโ€™s profiteering from the slave trade and slave-produced cotton.โ€ Really? Every state treasury – not companies – in the North? Good to learn the plantation owners were simply onlookers while the happy slaves โ€œproducedโ€ cotton.

  11. Maria Jones Avatar
    Maria Jones

    Setting aside the implied ad hominem, could you be more specific? Name the ahistorical
    misrepresentations and examples of white-washing, please. Make your argument.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      I don’t think it’s an ad hominem to know what we’re dealing with in terms of the author, since the individual I named is a well-known neo-confederate who publicizes himself as the same. But here are a few shortcomings: so-called “reconciliation” was done at the expense of the rights of new citizens, i.e. former slaves; the trope that Reconstruction had a “heavy hand” is common for Lost Causers, when in fact the issue was black enfranchisement and white rule; “dignified human figures” for the author is actually some of the most racist and Civil War-justifying depictions in art anywhere (look at some recent articles about the monument); I have not seen any reports that the memorial is going to be “demolished,” only taken down (has that changed? If so, a source?); and if taking down monuments is so “communist” then we should call our forefathers who toppled statues of King George III and democrats who toppled statues of Lenin in Eastern Europe communists. There are more…

      1. First of all, you have not linked the author to the person you name. Her major work is about WWII. Second, military.com said, “The 108-year-old monument should be stripped and removed down to its granite base plate, the commission will tell Congress in a forthcoming
        report on its recommendations. The latest and final report by the Naming
        Commission, created by Congress to scrub Confederate tributes from military property, will also recommend renaming the ship USS Chancellorsville, which takes its name from a Civil War battle.”

        If there hadn’t been already been reasonable comments to you, I would have deleted yours as ad hom.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          “First of all, you have not linked the author to the person you name.” That’s why I asked. Do you know? I would like to know. EDIT: I did a quick search and it appears they’re related in some fashion, but I don’t know for sure. The quote from military.com also doesn’t clarify if it’s going to be destroyed, only removed. Do we know it’ll be removed or destroyed?

        2. M. Purdy Avatar

          “First of all, you have not linked the author to the person you name.” That’s why I asked. Do you know? I would like to know. EDIT: I did a quick search and it appears they’re related in some fashion, but I don’t know for sure. The quote from military.com also doesn’t clarify if it’s going to be destroyed, only removed. Do we know it’ll be removed or destroyed?

          1. What difference does it make if they are related?

            Does your entire family have exactly the same beliefs about everything?

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Similarly to what was done to Mr. Ellis (which the poster condoned) a guilt by association fallacy.

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Like being in the UVa administration??? Or a member of its unmeasured lefty faculty?

          4. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Coherent thoughts please, I know that’s extremely difficult for you.

            You and your pals on here have zero problems with ad hom and smearing and it shows.

          5. …this is a lost cause-supporting article.

            No it isn’t.

          6. M. Purdy Avatar

            Let me guess, next you’re going to tell me that my parrot isn’t dead.

          7. A gratuitous assertion can be just as gratuitously refuted.

            Don’t you know anything about the rules of logical argument?

          8. Lefty665 Avatar

            It is an article about reconciliation.

            Racists strive to prevent that by viewing everything through the lens of race. Woke or Klan, it’s all the same and every bit as despicable.

          9. M. Purdy Avatar

            “It is an article about reconciliation [of white people at the expense of black people].” Read about the election of 1877…

          10. Lefty665 Avatar

            You’re not quoting me.

            The election of 1877 sucked, so what? That should invalidate all subsequent efforts at reconciliation and be a gotcha almost 150 years later?

            https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/looking-back-the-electoral-commission-of-1877

          11. M. Purdy Avatar

            I actually think one could reasonably argue that the monument should stay where it is, but you can’t talk about reconciliation and reconstruction without acknowledging that really meant. Much like the monument itself, this post white washes all of that, and buys into the myth.

          12. Lefty665 Avatar

            Stop the presses, extra, divisions remained a dozen years after Appomattox.

            There, does that make it all better, or are we supposed to refight the civil war today, like Groundhog Day over and over to eternity?

            The outcome was right. It took a hundred years, but America changed with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Fair Housing Act of 1967.

            1960 looked more like 1877 than it did like 1970. For approaching 60 years equality has been the law of the land. That is the entire lifetime of a majority of Americans.

            Racists want to destroy that change and marinate racial animosity in historic wrongs. That destroys progress to make America a better place for all.

            The remedy for past discrimination is NOT present discrimination. The remedy for discrimination is to stop discriminating. The issue is character, not color.

          13. Cliff Page Avatar
            Cliff Page

            You are clueless and obviously too young to understand. This matter is driven by the 50+-year-old “Take ’em Down Movement” of the Nation Headquarters of the NAACP in Baltimore, begun under Kweisi Mfume, and followed on by Julian Bond, their director. Following the Gandhi/Christian efforts of MLK and his assassination when he shifted from race issues to labor issues, and the rioting, arson, and looting the black movement turned into one of black liberation, segregation, black power, and violence “by any means possible. The leaders that rose from that group were black racist not interested in integration or assimilation. Instead, they were involved in the revolution, bank robberies, violence, and white hatred. They were and remain led by people like Angela Davis, H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, Elijah Mohammed and Luis Farrakhan (with their all-black mosques and diatribes against the white devils and the Jews). Today these revolutionaries and terrorists black racists have matasized into the New Black Panther Party and I Just Don’t Give a Fuck Anymore while much of the foces leading the attack on monuments has been led by Communist organizations and Anarchists. The International Workers League which was violent in the seventies, never died and remains entrenched in North Carolina academia and was the principle organization feeding and carrying out attacks on monuments in that state. The Communist Party of the ’50s directed by the Soviet Union did not disappear. But, were diligent in infiltrating the Hippie and anti-Viet Nam War movement, and the Democratic Party, particularly in the 70’s in Chicago and the North and West and Saul Alinsky and Howard Zinn were hard core communists, and academia have all across the nation been heavily infiltrated with Marxist thinking led by Herbert Marcuse, who influence academics and teachers at the graduate and undergraduate level which pushes out their bathering agenda into the public schools, where it is poured into the heads of young and easily malleable students. The Democratic Partyy has moved from being the Party of Jefferson and Jackson to the party of Bertrand Russel and Fabian Socialism. The dialectic of class struggle in the failed political philosophy has long been considered futile in the progress of
            American economics and politics, but the use of race to divide our people is a potent stick of dynamite to stick up the petards of a 70% white majority to polarize and conquer our nation from within. This is exactly what is happening all across America and the Democratic party with the aid of public media in particular and private also is benefiting by increasing legal imegration from third world and Catholic nations, (somthing JFK swore to the people he would not do) and looking the other way on illegal border crosser. These new immegrants are then told by the government and the media that they are “people of color” to identify with the Democratic Party (the benefactor of the colored and downtroden) and expand the never changing 12% black demographics to benefit the Democratic Party and its policies of Fabian Socialism. Race is being used to divide America and it is being orchestrated by the Democratic Party, the NAACP, the SPLC, and the Public and Private media for power and money. Racial polarization and the erasure of symbols of culture and history in America are being done with an orchestrated and purposeful objective. All conquering nations’ military to the lowest terrorist guerilla scum engages in this practice. This is what is going on. The rewriting of history and the emasculation of the majority to obtain political power and dominance by a fractional minority. America is being pushed to the brink of a race war, by outside forces, and their true believers in this nation. Their hope is such a conflict which will create a race dialect and bring about their world dominance and the demise of our nation, in which these parties will erase our motto of e Pluribus Unum to “Workers of the World Unite”, which will be brought about by the complacency of dough-faced complicity and civic entropy.

          14. Cliff Page Avatar
            Cliff Page

            You are clueless and obviously too young to understand. This matter is driven by the 50+-year-old “Take ’em Down Movement” of the Nation Headquarters of the NAACP in Baltimore, begun under Kweisi Mfume, and followed on by Julian Bond, their director. Following the Gandhi/Christian efforts of MLK and his assassination when he shifted from race issues to labor issues, and the rioting, arson, and looting the black movement turned into one of black liberation, segregation, black power, and violence “by any means possible. The leaders that rose from that group were black racist not interested in integration or assimilation. Instead, they were involved in the revolution, bank robberies, violence, and white hatred. They were and remain led by people like Angela Davis, H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, Elijah Mohammed and Luis Farrakhan (with their all-black mosques and diatribes against the white devils and the Jews). Today these revolutionaries and terrorists black racists have matasized into the New Black Panther Party and I Just Don’t Give a Fuck Anymore while much of the foces leading the attack on monuments has been led by Communist organizations and Anarchists. The International Workers League which was violent in the seventies, never died and remains entrenched in North Carolina academia and was the principle organization feeding and carrying out attacks on monuments in that state. The Communist Party of the ’50s directed by the Soviet Union did not disappear. But, were diligent in infiltrating the Hippie and anti-Viet Nam War movement, and the Democratic Party, particularly in the 70’s in Chicago and the North and West and Saul Alinsky and Howard Zinn were hard core communists, and academia have all across the nation been heavily infiltrated with Marxist thinking led by Herbert Marcuse, who influence academics and teachers at the graduate and undergraduate level which pushes out their bathering agenda into the public schools, where it is poured into the heads of young and easily malleable students. The Democratic Partyy has moved from being the Party of Jefferson and Jackson to the party of Bertrand Russel and Fabian Socialism. The dialectic of class struggle in the failed political philosophy has long been considered futile in the progress of
            American economics and politics, but the use of race to divide our people is a potent stick of dynamite to stick up the petards of a 70% white majority to polarize and conquer our nation from within. This is exactly what is happening all across America and the Democratic party with the aid of public media in particular and private also is benefiting by increasing legal imegration from third world and Catholic nations, (somthing JFK swore to the people he would not do) and looking the other way on illegal border crosser. These new immegrants are then told by the government and the media that they are “people of color” to identify with the Democratic Party (the benefactor of the colored and downtroden) and expand the never changing 12% black demographics to benefit the Democratic Party and its policies of Fabian Socialism. Race is being used to divide America and it is being orchestrated by the Democratic Party, the NAACP, the SPLC, and the Public and Private media for power and money. Racial polarization and the erasure of symbols of culture and history in America are being done with an orchestrated and purposeful objective. All conquering nations’ military to the lowest terrorist guerilla scum engages in this practice. This is what is going on. The rewriting of history and the emasculation of the majority to obtain political power and dominance by a fractional minority. America is being pushed to the brink of a race war, by outside forces, and their true believers in this nation. Their hope is such a conflict which will create a race dialect and bring about their world dominance and the demise of our nation, in which these parties will erase our motto of e Pluribus Unum to “Workers of the World Unite”, which will be brought about by the complacency of dough-faced complicity and civic entropy.

          15. Cliff Page Avatar
            Cliff Page

            You are clueless and obviously too young to understand. This matter is driven by the 50+-year-old “Take ’em Down Movement” of the Nation Headquarters of the NAACP in Baltimore, begun under Kweisi Mfume, and followed on by Julian Bond, their director. Following the Gandhi/Christian efforts of MLK and his assassination when he shifted from race issues to labor issues, and the rioting, arson, and looting the black movement turned into one of black liberation, segregation, black power, and violence “by any means possible. The leaders that rose from that group were black racist not interested in integration or assimilation. Instead, they were involved in the revolution, bank robberies, violence, and white hatred. They were and remain led by people like Angela Davis, H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, Elijah Mohammed and Luis Farrakhan (with their all-black mosques and diatribes against the white devils and the Jews). Today these revolutionaries and terrorists black racists have matasized into the New Black Panther Party and I Just Don’t Give a Fuck Anymore while much of the foces leading the attack on monuments has been led by Communist organizations and Anarchists. The International Workers League which was violent in the seventies, never died and remains entrenched in North Carolina academia and was the principle organization feeding and carrying out attacks on monuments in that state. The Communist Party of the ’50s directed by the Soviet Union did not disappear. But, were diligent in infiltrating the Hippie and anti-Viet Nam War movement, and the Democratic Party, particularly in the 70’s in Chicago and the North and West and Saul Alinsky and Howard Zinn were hard core communists, and academia have all across the nation been heavily infiltrated with Marxist thinking led by Herbert Marcuse, who influence academics and teachers at the graduate and undergraduate level which pushes out their bathering agenda into the public schools, where it is poured into the heads of young and easily malleable students. The Democratic Partyy has moved from being the Party of Jefferson and Jackson to the party of Bertrand Russel and Fabian Socialism. The dialectic of class struggle in the failed political philosophy has long been considered futile in the progress of
            American economics and politics, but the use of race to divide our people is a potent stick of dynamite to stick up the petards of a 70% white majority to polarize and conquer our nation from within. This is exactly what is happening all across America and the Democratic party with the aid of public media in particular and private also is benefiting by increasing legal imegration from third world and Catholic nations, (somthing JFK swore to the people he would not do) and looking the other way on illegal border crosser. These new immegrants are then told by the government and the media that they are “people of color” to identify with the Democratic Party (the benefactor of the colored and downtroden) and expand the never changing 12% black demographics to benefit the Democratic Party and its policies of Fabian Socialism. Race is being used to divide America and it is being orchestrated by the Democratic Party, the NAACP, the SPLC, and the Public and Private media for power and money. Racial polarization and the erasure of symbols of culture and history in America are being done with an orchestrated and purposeful objective. All conquering nations’ military to the lowest terrorist guerilla scum engages in this practice. This is what is going on. The rewriting of history and the emasculation of the majority to obtain political power and dominance by a fractional minority. America is being pushed to the brink of a race war, by outside forces, and their true believers in this nation. Their hope is such a conflict which will create a race dialect and bring about their world dominance and the demise of our nation, in which these parties will erase our motto of e Pluribus Unum to “Workers of the World Unite”, which will be brought about by the complacency of dough-faced complicity and civic entropy.

          16. Cliff Page Avatar
            Cliff Page

            You are clueless and obviously too young to understand. This matter is driven by the 50+-year-old “Take ’em Down Movement” of the Nation Headquarters of the NAACP in Baltimore, begun under Kweisi Mfume, and followed on by Julian Bond, their director. Following the Gandhi/Christian efforts of MLK and his assassination when he shifted from race issues to labor issues, and the rioting, arson, and looting the black movement turned into one of black liberation, segregation, black power, and violence “by any means possible. The leaders that rose from that group were black racist not interested in integration or assimilation. Instead, they were involved in revolutionary struggle, bank robberies, violence, rioting, and white hatred. These are the angerty people that MLK held at bay. They were and remain led by people like Angela Davis, H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, Elijah Muhammad, and Luis Farrakhan (with their all-black mosques and diatribes against the white devils and the Jews). Today these revolutionaries and terrorists black racists have metastasized into the New Black Panther Party and I Just Don’t Give a Fuck Anymore while much of the forces leading the attack on monuments has been led by Communist organizations and Anarchists. The International Workers League which was violent in the seventies, never died and remains entrenched in North Carolina academia and was the principle organization feeding and carrying out attacks on monuments in that state. The American Communist Party of the ’50s directed by the Soviet Union did not disappear. But, were diligent in infiltrating the Hippie movement and anti-Viet Nam War movement. The Democratic Party, particularly in the 70’s in Chicago and the North and West was heavily infiltrated by young Marxist and Saul Alinsky and Howard Zinn were hard core communists, Academia all across the nation have been heavily infiltrated with Marxist thinking led by Herbert Marcuse, whose influenced academics and teachers at the graduate and undergraduate level which pushes out their blathering agenda into the public schools, where it is poured into the heads of innocent easily malleable young students. The Democratic Party has moved from being the party of Jefferson and Jackson, small national government and state’s right to the party of Bertrand Russel and Fabian Socialism. and welfareism. The dialectic of class struggle in the failed Marxist political philosophy has long been considered futile in the progress of
            American economics and politics. But the use of race to divide our people is a potent stick of dynamite to stick up the petards of a 70% white majority to polarize and conquer our nation from within. This is exactly what is happening all across America and the Democratic party with the aid of public media in particular and private also is benefiting by increasing legal immigration from the third world and Catholic nations, (somthing JFK swore to the people he would not do) and looking the other way on illegal border crossers. These new immigrants are then told by the government and the media that they are “people of color” to identify with the Democratic Party (the champion and benefactor of the colored and downtrodden) and expand the never changing 12% black demographics to benefit the Democratic Party and its policies of Fabian Socialism. Race is being used to divide America and it is being orchestrated by the Democratic Party, the NAACP, the SPLC, and the Public and Private media for power and money. Racial polarization and the erasure of symbols of culture and history in America are being done with an orchestrated and purposeful objective. All conquering nations’ military to the lowest terrorist guerilla scum engage in this practice. This is what is going on. The rewriting of history trough cultural genocide and the emasculation of the majority to obtain political power and dominance by a fractional minority. America is being pushed to the brink of a race war, by outside forces, and their true believers in this nation. Their hope is such a conflict which will create a race dialect and bring about a Marxist world dominance and the demise of our nation, in which these parties will erase our motto of e Pluribus Unum to replace it with “Workers of the World Unite”, which will be brought about by the complacency of dough-faced complicity and civic entropy of Americans themselves who would rather be watching the game on their big screens than standing up. America will be conquered from within and it has already happened in nearly every major inner city all across the land. America is living at the beginning of the fin d’cycle of our nation. The decline began over 150 years ago.

          17. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Racists strive to prevent that by viewing everything through the lens of race.”

            It’s rather common sense that’s exactly how the klan operated postbellum.

            There is also currently a somewhat failed state that exists as a result of applying racism to combat racism (South Africa). It appears some don’t want to learn that lesson either.

          18. Cliff Page Avatar
            Cliff Page

            Better yet, Zimbabwe.

          19. Since you offered nothing else in support of the connection you named, comment is gone along with the exchanges with Lefty and your second off-topic comment on same person. See my post from the Naming Commission Report on deconstruction, removal and disposal. That’s destruction of a work of art and a cemetery memorial.

          20. Since you offered nothing else in support of the connection you named, comment is gone along with the exchanges with Lefty and your second off-topic comment on same person. See my post from the Naming Commission Report on deconstruction, removal and disposal. That’s destruction of a work of art and a cemetery memorial.

          21. Lefty665 Avatar

            Good swat. Neither Purdy nor I were adding anything to the conversation.

          22. M. Purdy Avatar

            So if I’m proven right and they are related, will you restore my comments and say you were wrong to remove them? If I posted a picture of them together, would that suffice? And no, you still can’t seem to find anything that says it’ll be destroyed can you? You just have to offer an opinion and make it equivalent. EDIT: they are brother and sister. Please restore my comments.

          23. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            well I used to think JAB would never do something like this but now it appears he’s
            okay with it if he lets someone else do it….

          24. Donald Smith Avatar
            Donald Smith

            I think you owe JAB more respect than you’re giving him.

            I can’t think of any other website that would allow someone to come into the comments section, day after day after day, and whine day after day after day.

            If JAB got tired of you, where else would you go to whine?

          25. M. Purdy Avatar

            I asked a question about the background of the author, which turned out to be dead on and true. Given the subject matter and same name, it wasn’t that big a stretch. Apparently we’re not allowed to state directly relevant facts anymore, lest it offends this blog’s sensibilities. And we don’t even get an acknowledgment that the deleted statements were correct:-).

          26. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Methinks Bovine is a member of the UDC hence criticism of it is also verboten. Birds of a feather.

          27. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I think both Carol and JAB owe an explanation for the deletions.

          28. M. Purdy Avatar

            Eh, no they don’t. But I don’t want to hear any blather about intellectual diversity, honesty, or open debate again.

          29. Donald Smith Avatar
            Donald Smith

            And I think you owe Carol and JAB a big thank-you for keeping you around.

          30. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Methinks Bovine is a member of the UDC hence criticism of it is also verboten. Birds of a feather.

          31. Overlooking your childish name-calling. No, I am not a member of the UDC. My family arrived here 50 years after the War. I do, however, know neighbors who are UDC members, and they are not racists as you claim them to be.

          32. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Seeing as how my description was of the ORGANIZATION and its actions, I’m not sure why/how your neighbors are relevant? The UDC organization was blatantly racist. Is it today? I don’t know, that’s why I added a question mark. It is most definitely not now, nor has it ever been, a benign actor in American life and the repeated, reflexive deletion of comments that tell the truth about its actions is telling. Why aren’t people allowed to tell the truth about UDC?

          33. https://hqudc.org/
            The United Daughters of the Confederacy appreciates the feelings of citizens across the country currently being expressed concerning
            Confederate memorial statues and monuments that were erected by our members in decades past.

            To some, these memorial statues and markers are viewed as divisive and thus unworthy of being allowed to remain in public places. To others, they simply represent a memorial to our forefathers who fought bravely during four years of war. These memorial statues and markers have been a part of the Southern landscape for decades.

            We are grieved that certain hate groups have taken the Confederate flag and other symbols as their own. We are the descendants of
            Confederate soldiers, sailors, and patriots. Our members are the ones who have spent 128 years honoring their memory by various activities in the fields of education, history and charity, promoting patriotism and
            good citizenship. Our members are the ones who, like our statues, have
            stayed quietly in the background, never engaging in public controversy.

            The United Daughters of the Confederacy totally denounces any individual or group that promotes racial divisiveness or white supremacy. And we call on these people to cease using Confederate symbols for their abhorrent and reprehensible purposes.

            We are saddened that some people find anything connected with the Confederacy to be offensive. Our Confederate ancestors were and are Americans. We as an Organization do not sit in judgment of them nor do
            we impose the standards of the 19th century on Americans of the 21st
            century.

            It is our sincere wish that our great nation and its citizens will continue to let its fellow Americans, the descendants of Confederate
            soldiers, honor the memory of their ancestors. Indeed, we urge all Americans to honor their ancestorsโ€™ contributions to our country as well. This diversity is what makes our nation stronger.

            Join us in denouncing hate groups and affirming that Confederate memorial statues and monuments are part of our shared American history and should remain in place.
            Jinny Widowski
            President General, 2022-2024

          34. https://hqudc.org/
            The United Daughters of the Confederacy appreciates the feelings of citizens across the country currently being expressed concerning
            Confederate memorial statues and monuments that were erected by our members in decades past.

            To some, these memorial statues and markers are viewed as divisive and thus unworthy of being allowed to remain in public places. To others, they simply represent a memorial to our forefathers who fought bravely during four years of war. These memorial statues and markers have been a part of the Southern landscape for decades.

            We are grieved that certain hate groups have taken the Confederate flag and other symbols as their own. We are the descendants of
            Confederate soldiers, sailors, and patriots. Our members are the ones who have spent 128 years honoring their memory by various activities in the fields of education, history and charity, promoting patriotism and
            good citizenship. Our members are the ones who, like our statues, have
            stayed quietly in the background, never engaging in public controversy.

            The United Daughters of the Confederacy totally denounces any individual or group that promotes racial divisiveness or white supremacy. And we call on these people to cease using Confederate symbols for their abhorrent and reprehensible purposes.

            We are saddened that some people find anything connected with the Confederacy to be offensive. Our Confederate ancestors were and are Americans. We as an Organization do not sit in judgment of them nor do
            we impose the standards of the 19th century on Americans of the 21st
            century.

            It is our sincere wish that our great nation and its citizens will continue to let its fellow Americans, the descendants of Confederate
            soldiers, honor the memory of their ancestors. Indeed, we urge all Americans to honor their ancestorsโ€™ contributions to our country as well. This diversity is what makes our nation stronger.

            Join us in denouncing hate groups and affirming that Confederate memorial statues and monuments are part of our shared American history and should remain in place.
            Jinny Widowski
            President General, 2022-2024

          35. Cliff Page Avatar
            Cliff Page

            I must presume that your comments regarding hate groups misusing or misrepresenting Confederate symbols is directed at right-wing groups. But in fact, the real almost representation, slander, and libel against Confederate Symbols and the historical revisionism against those symbols, Confederate veterans, the SCV, the UDC, and the “Take ’em Down Movement” itself stems from the national headquarters of the NAACP in Baltimore. In just the last couple of years the two men
            who started the SPLC were ousted and today that organization is led by an almost solid group of young black women who daily pour out propaganda, vitriol, hatred, lies, bigotry, slander
            and libel that makes the NAACP look like pikers. And their pockets are far deeper than those of the NAACP. I strongly disagree with your thesis that the UDC should be quiet in the background. The UDC capitulated in allowing the name of Confederate Hall at Vanderbilt University to be ground off, taking silver like Judas to
            permit this disgrace! The Lakota have been promised millions for the Black Hills by the Federal government and they continually stand firm and state that it is sacred and will never be for sale. That is the kind of position that garners respect and shows commitment and resolve!
            You set the stage for other Confederate capitulations in Nashville, and Chapel Hill and hardly raised your voices when your headquarters were set afire in Richmond. Where was the UDC when the Portsmouth Confederate monument was under attack and being slandered and libeled?
            Within a week of its attack, which disgraced not only the Confederate Veterans but Virginia and the United States before the entire world, other monuments came under attack almost immediately and were removed illegally by mayors and councilmen!
            The SPLC whipped Robert Shelton and his third Klan by a lawsuit that sent them into oblivion.
            The UDC and SCV and the Republican Party and their elected officials are all losing credibility, public confidence, and clout because of timidity. What both organizations, UDC and SCV have not done or done is shameful. If you know your attackers, your enemies, those who lie and slander you or the Confederacy and Confederate Veterans are and you don’t fight back politically and in the courts and continue to think that this is a tea party and hide behind the skrim of your 501c3 timidly, we will have fought a Lost Cause, and nothing the Confederacy stood for and fought for will be erased from the history books and its symbols erased from human memory. The next generation will spit on your graves and on all Confederates.

            Lace-up your girdles ladies. Throw out the lilies and pick up the roses clenching the thorns by their stems so you won’t loose your grip. Fight back and show the SCV what leadership and fight is all about.

            What the UDC and the South needs right now in its women is not Scarlett O’Harah, but Ma Clampet.

          36. Overlooking your childish name-calling. No, I am not a member of the UDC. My family arrived here 50 years after the War. I do, however, know neighbors who are UDC members, and they are not racists as you claim them to be.

          37. M. Purdy Avatar

            Are you going to retract your statement that my question (which turned out to be 100% true) was an ad hominem attack?

          38. Donald Smith Avatar
            Donald Smith

            Carol, you don’t have to put up with this. If someone comes on these boards with the obvious intent of being a shallow pest, then ban them. I admire your patience with these twits.

          39. The comment that they are brother and sister according to the ultimate source, Facebook, is restored. The other comment on the brother that was deleted was not about the article and was therefore off topic.

          40. The comment that they are brother and sister according to the ultimate source, Facebook, is restored. The other comment on the brother that was deleted was not about the article and was therefore off topic.

          41. The comment that they are brother and sister according to the ultimate source, Facebook, is restored. The other comment on the brother that was deleted was not about the article and was therefore off topic.

          42. M. Purdy Avatar

            Fine. But for the record, her brother’s advocacy for the confederacy and lost cause is quite well-known. He was just on Bacon’s favorite radio show, John Reid, a couple months ago talking about the same. That advocacy relevant given the article’s topic, which seeks to downplay the Lost Cause and racial (racist?) aspects of the memorial, which itself whitewashes all the horrors of the Confederacy. (The first item that comes up if you search him are his archives on the Confederate Shop whose motto is: “All Confederate, All the Time–No Apologies.” You can’t make this stuff up…)

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        I don’t appreciate your remarks in regards to the author Purdy. Have you no sense of decency?

      3. Cliff Page Avatar
        Cliff Page

        Drivel!

      4. There were no statues of George 3 in the American colonies.

    2. VaNavVet Avatar

      Governor Youngkin did in his recent town hall with CNN state definitively that the cause of the Civil War was slavery!

  12. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    As a descendant of two second great grandfathers who fought for the Union, I carry no water for the Confederacy or its causes. I’m not bothered by removing statutes of Confederate generals from public spaces (except for battlefields and museums.)

    But reconciliation between the North and South was both a necessary and important part of American history. The commissioning of former Confederate generals into the U.S. Army during the Spanish-American War, the many GAR-UCV joint battlefield reunions and the Confederate Memorial to Reconciliation and Reunification are all part of this history. Erase it. Yet, the erasers remain silent on the retention of the Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge, dedicated to the most racist president in American history.

    If true, the failure to seek public comment is repulsive to good government and possibly the Administrative Procedure Act.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      This is just politics, sadly. Democrats need a massive, overwhelming advantage among black voters to maintain power. If this makes those voters happy, this is what they will do. A century ago, making the former Confederates and their descendants happy was their path to power, so they put up the statues they now remove. What goes around comes around. This one, in a cemetery where the Rebs rest, with a theme of reconciliation, should be left alone. (And yes, same Traywick family, as if that matters.)

      1. M. Purdy Avatar

        “This one, in a cemetery where the Rebs rest, with a theme of reconciliation, should be left alone.” To be clear, I don’t think anyone is arguing that the graves should be disrupted, only the monument moved. But I do think it’s a fair argument to say that it’s a resting place, so leave it be, even if I may disagree with it.

    2. Cliff Page Avatar
      Cliff Page

      Monuments on Federal property are protected by Federal Law. But your characterization of Woodrow Wilson as the “most racist president in American history” falls short. I encourage you to look into the numerous public speeches and even the inaugural speeches of Abraham Lincoln, whose attitude very much reflected Northern drager for Negros and particularly the citizens of Ohio and Illinois, where blacks were not permitted without a huge bond and could not stay more than fourteen days after which they would be arrested and flogged with 39 lashes.

      1. killerhertz Avatar
        killerhertz

        I agree. Worst president in history period. He was also a eugenicist.

  13. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Okay. So what? Statue. Nobody gonna die. Well, it is Arlington..

  14. As the comments to this post make clear, advocates of tearing down the statue are not remotely interested in reconciliation — not the reconciliation associated with admitting the Confederate states back into the union and knitting the country back together, or reconciliation today.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      Your definition of “reconciliation” only applies white citizens apparently? Read about the election the 1877 election. It’s an ugly piece of history, not something to be celebrated.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Nope, just interested in winning elections, and damn good at it, ain’t they? The unreconstructed keeping the spotlight on this walk right into the line of fire…They represent probably 5-10% of white voters in VA, if that much. It turns off swing voters big time. But I’ve been warning about that here for years….

    3. M. Purdy Avatar

      Your definition of “reconciliation” only applies white citizens apparently? Read about the election the 1877 election. It’s an ugly piece of history, not something to be celebrated.

    4. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Nope, just interested in winning elections, and damn good at it, ain’t they? The unreconstructed keeping the spotlight on this walk right into the line of fire…They represent probably 5-10% of white voters in VA, if that much. It turns off swing voters big time. But I’ve been warning about that here for years….

      1. Donald Smith Avatar
        Donald Smith

        …yes, and if we follow your advice, we’ll end up with reasonably priced electricity—and a society of shallow and hypersensitive people, wearing hoodies, huddled in their apartments tapping on their phones. A country’s culture and heritage are just as important as the monthly Dominion Power electric bills.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          I lived next to General Jeb on Monument Avenue for four years and almost never saw anybody stopping to admire it. That wasn’t anybody’s vital culture until it was threatened. Lee had more visitors, but mainly because of the lovely lawn.

  15. Matt Adams Avatar
    Matt Adams

    Here I thought it was always assured to only be the statues on public land. Guess those opinions evolve (who would’ve guess, oh wait everyone did).

  16. Interesting that the link to the Naming Commission FInal Report isn’t working. Found Part II at the West Point Site: https://s3.amazonaws.com/usma-media/inline-images/public_affairs/congressional_naming_commission/Naming_Commission_Final_Report_Part_II.pdf
    Found Part III by playing with link to II: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22418997/naming_commission_final_report_part_iii.pdf

    1. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Does learning about the staff work and appointees of the committee change your view of the outcome?

      1. Donald Smith Avatar
        Donald Smith

        I don’t understand your reasoning that, if we like a group of people, we’re obligated to accept their recommendations. If we don’t agree with their recommendations, we don’t accept them.

  17. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    “Completed in 1914, the sculpture depicts two false tropes common to the Lost Cause effort to romanticize Southern defeat in the Civil War: a weeping Black woman โ€” a โ€œmammy,โ€ according to the cemetery โ€” holding the baby of a White Confederate officer, and an enslaved man accompanying his enslaver into battle. In the past five years, cemetery caretakers have acknowledged the intentionally misleading imagery with interpretive efforts, including signage at the site and a webpage that explains how the memorial was part of a larger attempt to gloss over the evils of slavery.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d04de666ab75c7255428c929d9f853cb41e78f95ad4d54b0a659d2ac03700d29.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e4f737cf8f3262a4d3d994121c11057286b1b3f371fbc219b0c6b6847de5b6d.jpg

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      Exactly…

    2. M. Purdy Avatar

      Well said.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Perhaps James. I just think when we discuss these issues, the truth needs to be involved especally when we claim there is no good reason to remove. I find this particular “memorial” to be repugnant and really, dishonorable. I respect your opinion to the opposite but I still feel the truth needs to be
        front and center with respect to why some want it removed.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Cannot agree with your sentiment here. This monument was put up by the UDC and promotes the lost cause and slavery and it has no place in society that has put that behind us IMO. We can disagree on this but you cannot tell me to not have an opinion nor express it as I would not try to put that on you either. These hateful symbols need to be moved out of the public places IMO.

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          We all need to be more cognizant of our assertions. Yโ€™all ainโ€™t alone. Some, however, have the power of deletion.

        3. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Remember your earlier admonition to your self.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            I really don’t like Ty. I think he is a fraud as a historian. His conclusions are all wrong. Frail standards of scholarship and a feeble sense of judgement. He cashed in on the culture wars and his books will be on the discount shelf unread. I do respect his military career. He saw real action at the front.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            The only caveat I have is that Gen. Seidule is that he was ACR in the Gulf War, that was the only “action” he saw. His ribbons don’t denote any significant actions.

  18. Tom Blau Avatar

    Well said.

  19. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Debate concerning orderly removal of civic monuments is useful and may be educational. The assault on the statuary of Junipero Serra was pure mischief. OTOH, Serra, a religious missionary in CA, is not in a league or category similar to that of Civil War personages. Conflation only confuses, not clarifies, the discussion.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      yes. “Conflation” is apparently a purposeful strategy at times…..

  20. @ M. Purdy–Deconstructed, removal and disposal = demolished in my opinion.

    Naming Commission Report art III p. 16: Recommendations
    After a review of options from the Department of the
    Army study, the Commission recommends:
    ยŠ The statue atop of the monument should be re-
    moved. All bronze elements on the monument
    should be deconstructed, and removed, preferably
    leaving the granite base and foundation in place to
    minimize risk of inadvertent disturbance of graves.
    ยŠ The work should be planned and coordinated with
    the Commission of Fine Arts and the Historical
    Review Commission to determine the best way to
    proceed with removal of the monument.
    ยŠ The Department of Army should consider the most
    cost-effective method of removal and disposal of the
    monumentโ€™s elements in their planning.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      I don’t care if you restore my comments, but at least admit that the author is the brother of Bo Traywick. Can you do that?

    2. M. Purdy Avatar

      “@ M. Purdy–Deconstructed, removal and disposal = demolished in my opinion.” Key words…in your opinion.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Wow! I wonder how long before JAB has an opinion about these deletions.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Hold your breath.

  21. M. Purdy Avatar

    @CJBova, they are brother and sister. It’s on FB. Please restore my comments.

  22. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “…the heavy hand of Reconstruction made reconciliation challenging, as Southerners struggled to rebuild their war-torn states under steep federal burdens.”

    The Lost Cause is alive and well….

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      … tis the honest truth I’m telling ya……

      1. Thanks to the Democratic Party trying to keep the Lost Cause alive and well since 1865……. apparently bringing back lynchings in 2023 according to HBCU Joe.

  23. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Doesn’t matter why your great-great-great-grandfather fought or for which side. That’s your history. The Southern Army fought to preserve slavery, and the Northern Army fought to preserve the Union. End of story, or his/her story if you wish.

    The North won, and as the winner need not honor the loser. Price of losing, don’t ya know.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      It’s hard to buy the “peace and reconciliation” thing done in 1914 when Jim Crow was ongoing and continued for decades after. What “peace and reconciliation” for black folks subject to the hate and harm of Jim Crow for generations?

      So , NOW, we want to talk about “peace and reconciliation” even as some continue to insist
      that there is no such thing as systemic racism?

      Sorry, any monument that has any connection to Jim Crow does not deserve to remain, IMO. The folks who continue to revere them can argue that they should not be destroyed. I wish them well in that endeavor.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Remember when you were a kid and didn’t have money so you bet “free slapsies”? Well, the winner is collecting his free slapsie.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          are there different “strengths” of “slapsie” say for irish immigrants, japanese detainees, native Americans and Jim Crow Black folk?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Well, the Irish made up a lot of both sides. “Is this a private fight, or can anyone join in?”

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Battle of the Crater… Oops.

    2. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      “The Southern Army fought to preserve slavery, and the Northern Army fought to preserve the Union. End of story”

      Well, seeing as you’ve apparently won this argument, you shouldn’t mind if the rest of us waste our time pointing out in detail the shallowness of your assessment and thinking. If you’re right, most people will agree with you.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Keep calm and carry your water.

        There’s an old adage that if someone tells you what they are, believe them. It’s all in the secession documents and the Cornerstone speech.

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Keep calm and carry your water.

        There’s an old adage that if someone tells you what they are, believe them. It’s all in the secession documents and the Cornerstone speech.

  24. Not Today Avatar
    Not Today

    When a federal commission actually does something, achieves a measured result, we should all be shouting huzzah! It’s not as though Confederate sympathizers didn’t get an ample hearing. Indeed, their arguments were simply unpersuasive. The commission appointees (pls., can anyone find fault with their credentials or ability to adequately represent the modern force??) disagreed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naming_Commission I do not understand why this continues to be a hill BR posters want to die on.

    1. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      “their arguments were simply unpersuasive.”

      Or, the committee had already made up its mind. Or wasn’t listening. Or was stacked to achieve a predetermined result.

      “I do not understand why this continues to be a hill BR posters want to die on.”

      Because you apparently do not understand the American soldier or citizen. They don’t just do what their superiors tell them to do or accept what their superiors say. It’s a tradition that Minutemen started at Valley Forge, when they demanded that Baron Von Steuben explain the orders he was giving.

      Now, if you want to meekly take orders, or be told what to think, you go right ahead.

    2. Donald Smith Avatar
      Donald Smith

      “their arguments were simply unpersuasive.”

      Or, the committee had already made up its mind. Or wasn’t listening. Or was stacked to achieve a predetermined result.

      “I do not understand why this continues to be a hill BR posters want to die on.”

      Because you apparently do not understand the American soldier or citizen. They don’t just do what their superiors tell them to do or accept what their superiors say. It’s a tradition that Minutemen started at Valley Forge, when they demanded that Baron Von Steuben explain the orders he was giving.

      Now, if you want to meekly take orders, or be told what to think, you go right ahead.

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        Always a possibility. Which of the 8 members do you suspect were involved in the conspiracy?

      2. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        I understand the sailor I sleep with at night and as a citizen myself, I am confident I know my own mind. I feel like that’s sufficient.

        1. Donald Smith Avatar
          Donald Smith

          Does the sailor you sleep with at night accept what generals and admirals tell him as the Gospel? Does he do and believe what they say, simply because they’re flag officers?

        2. Donald Smith Avatar
          Donald Smith

          Does the sailor you sleep with at night accept what generals and admirals tell him as the Gospel? Does he do and believe what they say, simply because they’re flag officers?

  25. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O'Keefe

    Instead of efforts to erase any signs of sad period of history, wouldn’t we better served with addressing the current problems caused by bigotry and racism? Removing statues and monuments doesn’t change any bigot’s or racist’s heart.
    In addition to the tragedy of the Civil War, we seem to conveniently overlook what our government did to native Americans and is still doing.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      The effort is not simply to erase “signs” but to call attention to the meaning of the symbols which continue as testimony to racism. The nation’s treatment of NAs is not lost as increasingly attention is paid to such oppression such as the mention of Junipero Serra in this article and the visit of the Pope to Canada to apologize for treatment of indigenous populations. NA revenge is being taken by building casinos to obtain money from conquerors.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Yes. But we haven’t.

    3. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Those ‘current’ problems include DENIAL.

      1. William O'Keefe Avatar
        William O'Keefe

        I assume that you mean denial of slavery being the reason for the Civil War. If so, I consider “denial” far down the priority list from hate, bigotry, and racism.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          The denial in discussion is merely the remnant of the original sin that engendered hate, bigotry, and racism.

        2. Not Today Avatar
          Not Today

          No. I mean our current problem is senior white Americans and their denial of the right of non-white Americans to hold EQUAL power/sway in decision-making wrt K-12 and higher ed instruction, monuments, history, reproductive policy, etc.

          1. William O'Keefe Avatar
            William O'Keefe

            why do you limit it to “seรฑor white Americans”? That clearly is wrong.

          2. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            I single out that demo because it is a) the most powerful and regressive in national politics/dialogue and b) the most opposed to shared power/decision-making. On the whole, they simply do not believe (in policy or practice) that non-white Americans should have a representative share/voice in governance and would prefer to see their views prevail uber alles regardless of how/why (nice folks) or decry ad-nauseum their failure to ram their views down others’ throats by force regardless of who’s hurt (not nice folks).

          3. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            I single out that demo because it is a) the most powerful and regressive in national politics/dialogue and b) the most opposed to shared power/decision-making. On the whole, they simply do not believe (in policy or practice) that non-white Americans should have a representative share/voice in governance and would prefer to see their views prevail uber alles regardless of how/why (nice folks). **OR** they decry, ad-nauseum, their failure to ram their views down others’ throats by force regardless of who’s hurt (not nice folks).

    4. M. Purdy Avatar

      I would characterize the lost cause of an “effort to erase any signs of a sad period of history.”

  26. keydet16 Avatar

    I don’t have a dog in this fight and I support removing Confederate statues, but I am morbidly curious as to what UVA is going to do to their two(!) Moses Ezekiel statues (The TJ in front of the Rotunda and the Homer in front of the Lawn).

      1. keydet16 Avatar

        Thanks for the link! We’ll see if that holds up over time, not that I care that much eithr way.

      2. keydet16 Avatar

        Thanks for the link! We’ll see if that holds up over time, not that I care that much eithr way.

  27. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    Apparently a lot of Wokesters feel compelled to go into a cemetery and pull up a statue, because the simple thought of it existing somewhere on Earth triggers them. I guess these Wokesters toss and turn in their beds at night, knowing that a politically-incorrect statue stands in a remote area, way out of sight, on the other side of town.

    To paraphrase Lee, it’s impossible not to laugh at those people.

    1. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      Or, some little old ladies were so triggered by emancipation that they worked their blessed hearts out to erect these monstrosities and convince others that they’re ‘art’. https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/united-daughters-of-the-confederacy/

      1. Donald Smith Avatar
        Donald Smith

        The commission that created the memorial had representatives from all over the U.S. and was supported by President McKinley, a former Union Army officer. Go ahead and be bitter, if it’s what you need.

        And, thanks for putting your assessment of the situation on the record, in comparison to mine. I feel pretty confident that a majority of rational folks will agree with my judgements, instead of yours.

  28. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    In fairness, the CNC did not explicitly direct that the memorial be “demolished.” They didn’t call for Army engineers to ring Ezekiel’s monument with C4…

    …but many of the woke artistic types who cringe at the sight of Ezekiel’s statue will (if pressed) concede that, once you move a piece of art or alter its surroundings, you de facto destroy the original message it was sending.

    Remember “Fearless Girl?” The statue of a perky girl confronting the Wall Street bull. Feminists the world over rejoiced over it—and blew off the bull’s sculptor, who pointed out that “Fearless Girl” destroyed the artistic message the bull sculpture was originally supposed to send. (The feminists shrugged).

    Moses Ezekiel crafted a sculpture designed to honor hundreds of men who died in the service of a cause. It isn’t our cause, but it was theirs. They lived in a time much different than ours, and Ezekiel’s statue was crafted to honor them. Not us.

    If someone feels they need to take down a statue created to honor dead from a different era, because it irritates modern-day people who live in a different era, with different views, then those modern-day people shouldn’t be surprised if they are viewed with contempt and dismissed as silly.

    1. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      You insist on selectively elevating the historic opinion of white people on these matters. Your view holds only the ideas of those who erected the statutes as sacred and not those who were marginalized and/or terrorized into silence by those who erected them. When do their views count? Are they not Americans too?

      I realize that many here do not have limbs (that they know of) on their family trees replete with folks who share marginalized views but they’re nonetheless present in the nation and equally valid.

      They existed in the past and their descendants exist today. White folks don’t get to define, in perpetuity, what’s worth remembering, what qualifies as art, and what actually happened.

    2. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      You insist on selectively elevating the historic opinion of white people on these matters. Your view holds only the ideas of those who erected the statutes as sacred and not those who were marginalized and/or terrorized into silence by those who erected them. When do their views count? Are they not Americans too?

      I realize that many here do not have limbs (that they know of) on their family trees replete with folks who share marginalized views but they’re nonetheless present in the nation and equally valid.

      They existed in the past and their descendants exist today. White folks don’t get to define, in perpetuity, what’s worth remembering, what qualifies as art, and what actually happened.

    3. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      You insist on selectively elevating the historic opinion of white people on these matters. Your view holds only the ideas of those who erected the statutes as sacred and not those who were marginalized and/or terrorized into silence by those who erected them. When do their views count? Are they not Americans too?

      I realize that many here do not have limbs (that they know of) on their family trees replete with folks who share marginalized views but they’re nonetheless present in the nation and equally valid.

      They existed in the past and their descendants exist today. White folks don’t get to define, in perpetuity, what’s worth remembering, what qualifies as art, and what actually happened.

      https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/united-daughters-of-the-confederacy/

      1. Donald Smith Avatar
        Donald Smith

        Oh, for FFS. If you don’t like the memorial, don’t go to the Confederate portion of Arlington National Cemetery.

        Do you embrace victimhood? Feeling marginalized and suppressed? Is all your reasoning this overwrought and charged with emotion? You sound silly, even foolish. Get a grip.

        Leaving a politically-incorrect memorial standing in a remote part of a cemetery now is a sign that people who don’t like the statue are not “present in the nation and equally valid?”

        If those people are so emotionally and culturally brittle that they can’t deal with the existence of a memorial in a fall-off place, they invite contempt, not respect.

      2. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        And neither do you. Thatโ€™s kinda the point. And you get to define whatโ€™s acceptable to or for โ€œthe marginalized.โ€ I believe you have indicated you, yourself, are not โ€œmarginalized.โ€ If true, is that an example of white savior syndrome? Is there any non-marginalized history worth remembering? MayI create statues to remember leftist hate? Piles of aborted dead babies, the kulaks starved in Russia, the piles of skulls in Cambodia, death and misery everywhere, to be brought to us by our loving overlords of the Left.

    4. M. Purdy Avatar

      “In fairness, the CNC did not explicitly direct that the memorial be “demolished.” They didn’t call for Army engineers to ring Ezekiel’s monument with C4…” Can you mention this to the mods?

      1. In fairness? No. In playing word games. Webster on deconstruct offers destroy, demolish. The alternate definitions do not apply because they are not examining something or its constituent parts. The CNC called for metal plates to be laid over the graves as protection and the bronze elements deconstructed and removed….after considering “the most cost-effective method of removal and disposal.” Disposal. Not moving to another location. Deconstruction and disposal.

      2. In fairness? No. In playing word games. Webster on deconstruct offers destroy, demolish. The alternate definitions do not apply because they are not examining something or its constituent parts. The CNC called for metal plates to be laid over the graves as protection and the bronze elements deconstructed and removed….after considering “the most cost-effective method of removal and disposal.” Disposal. Not moving to another location. Deconstruction and disposal.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          what rule is being broken?

          The rules:

          No profanityโ€ฆ No clever efforts to evade the restriction by substituting characters or using synonyms.

          No ad hominem attacks, no insulting other commenters.
          No wandering way off topic.

          Stick to the topics raised in the post or logical offshoots of those topics.

          No snark. Well, exceptionally witty snark might be given special dispensation, but routine, run-of-the-mill snark will be deleted.

          1. Off topic from the article.

        2. M. Purdy Avatar

          Who’s playing word games? Neither you nor the author can find a source that says the statue is going to be demolished or destroyed. Unless you can find a source, perhaps don’t use that hyperbolic language. This is the way that a defense publication described the naming commissions decision: “The Naming Commission, which was established by the 2021 Defense Authorization Act to address systemic racism in the military, is recommending that the statue on top of the memorial and all bronze elements of the monument be removed, but that the granite base should remain in place to avoid disturbing the graves nearby.” Has that changed, and if so, please provide a source.

          1. I previously provided the source and the link. Here they are together. CNC Report Part III pg 16
            “Recommendations
            After a review of options from the Department of the Army study, the Commission recommends:
            ยŠ The statue atop of the monument should be removed. All bronze elements on the monument should be deconstructed, and removed, preferably leaving the granite base and foundation in place to minimize risk of inadvertent disturbance of graves….
            ยŠ The Department of Army should consider the most
            cost-effective method of removal and disposal of the monumentโ€™s elements “…
            It also says “The term removal includes:ยŠ demolishing the bronze elements while leaving the granite elements in place”
            The other definitions of removal include use of the word tagging which is not in the recommendations.
            https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22418997/naming_commission_final_report_part_iii.pdf

          2. I previously provided the source and the link. Here they are together. CNC Report Part III pg 16
            “Recommendations
            After a review of options from the Department of the Army study, the Commission recommends:
            ยŠ The statue atop of the monument should be removed. All bronze elements on the monument should be deconstructed, and removed, preferably leaving the granite base and foundation in place to minimize risk of inadvertent disturbance of graves….
            ยŠ The Department of Army should consider the most
            cost-effective method of removal and disposal of the monumentโ€™s elements “…
            It also says “The term removal includes:ยŠ demolishing the bronze elements while leaving the granite elements in place”
            The other definitions of removal include use of the word tagging which is not in the recommendations.
            https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22418997/naming_commission_final_report_part_iii.pdf

          3. I previously provided the source and the link. Here they are together. CNC Report Part III pg 16
            “Recommendations
            After a review of options from the Department of the Army study, the Commission recommends:
            ยŠ The statue atop of the monument should be removed. All bronze elements on the monument should be deconstructed, and removed, preferably leaving the granite base and foundation in place to minimize risk of inadvertent disturbance of graves….
            ยŠ The Department of Army should consider the most
            cost-effective method of removal and disposal of the monumentโ€™s elements “…
            It also says “The term removal includes:ยŠ demolishing the bronze elements while leaving the granite elements in place”
            The other definitions of removal include use of the word tagging which is not in the recommendations.
            https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22418997/naming_commission_final_report_part_iii.pdf

            (I deleted my shorter comment without the link.)

          4. M. Purdy Avatar

            Respectfully, I think you’re misinterpreting what that section is trying to say. And to be fair, it’s perhaps a bit convoluted. The para that you cite regarding “demolishing” is where they’re exploring different options, i.e. they determined that it should be “removed,” and they defined removal by providing a range of options, which included demolition of certain elements and even “demolishing and recycling all components of the
            memorial” (second to last). Note that you know that those are a range of presented options because they’re basically incompatible with one another, i.e. if you demolish and recycle the whole thing, you can’t store the thing you just destroyed (the first option). But they evaluated all those options, and ultimately didn’t recommend demolition (note again, that they use the actual term and not a euphemism). They recommend in the next paragraph removing the statue, taking apart and away the bronze below, and leaving the granite. See what I’m saying? There’s no recommendation for demolition or destruction.

          5. No matter how you try to slice it, nowhere does it say storage of the bronze elements. There are two sets of elements — bronze and granite. The granite stays and the bronze is deconstructed and removed– NOT stored–removed and disposed of.

          6. M. Purdy Avatar

            I don’t follow. The first bullet of options (not recommendation) says “deconstructing, tagging and storing bronze and granite elements.” Note that “deconstructing” does not equal destroying or demolishing here, because how can you, and why would you, tag and store something you destroy or demolish? The commission didn’t recommend that course of action, but neither did they recommend “demolishing and recycling all components of the memorial,” the second to last option. Instead, they recommended deconstruction (not demolition) and removal.

  29. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Wow. It is apparent that an intelligent conversation is impossible with people full of hate, and Leftism is hate.
    Somehow, people who actually fought against each other were more tolerant and loving and forgiving than the hate-filled Marxists of today, who actually have probably never done anything personally generous.
    You people celebrate baby-killing and pretend you are virtuous. You support slave trading today with the cartels and human trafficking going on at the border. You have your money-laundering NGOs encouraging people to break the law – while breaking it themselves – so they can be trafficked, and with the extra benefit of fentanyl coming in to kill nearly 100,000 annually. But you are good people!
    You approve of slave labor with countries and companies you favor.
    Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank don’t work – Barney Frank is on the Board of one of the failed banks! But, no problem, you are there to bail them out to keep the political contribution money-laundering train flowing, while Biden and Yellen (two incompetents) lie that it is not paid with taxpayer money. All government money comes from taxpayers. Even if it really will be FDIC “insurance,” (it won’t), the banks have to charge fees to pay the “insurance”).
    The education system sucks. Inflation is real. You appoint people for their skin color or their sexual variance from normal, with no regard to competence. Seriously – I’ll take Ric Grenell over idiot, incompetent Mayor Pete Buttigieg any day. Grenell was good at everything he did.
    Wait, have I mentioned how you were wrong about Covid, violated the Nuremberg Code, violated religious liberty, killed hundreds of thousands by denying early therapeutics, killed or disabled many more mandating an ineffective EUA “vaccine,” bankrupted the country, screwed kids over, and censored critics, with the full force and willing lap dog cooperation of your social media allies?
    You are awful at everything you do except gleefully abusing power. You are actually evil, horrible people.
    Destroying statues and renaming things accomplishes nothing, but it is useful to stir up hatred.
    Race relations are worse under all your “improvements,” but that was/is the plan, because fixing schools, cracking down on crime, opening up oil production means more freedom and liberty and less control for you.

    And the final great irony, the war was fought to stop the Southern States from seceding (which many Northern States had previously wished for), and they were forced back into the Union, but they were such horrible people that they can’t even be remembered with any dignity. So why didn’t you just let them leave back then? Seems like you are breaking the deal now…

    You are horrible people. Hypocrites and liars. And for any nominally conservative people who think tearing all these statues down is good, you are being useful idiots. After erasing everything Confederate, then the destroyers (Commie Leftists who are horrible people) will go after TJ, GW, JM (while ignoring the slave-owning ancestors of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Robert Byrd’s Grand Kleagle Klan membership) and once they are nuked, they will go after the other founders who approved of a union with slavery. Wake up.

    Here in Richmond we have a great example – in the early 1990s, the statue issue was “fixed” with the addition of the Arthur Ashe statue and a 7-0 City Council vote.

  30. Cliff Page Avatar
    Cliff Page

    Very good article! The nexus of all attacks, desecration, and destruction of Confederate monuments is the NAACP’s 50+-year-old “Take ’em Down Movement begun by their director Kweisi Mfume, which was followed by Julian Bond. The long-term goal is to erase the contribution and historic value of white culture and history in America. And elevate that of the black man “the oppressed” to the dominant builder of America and to gain public stature through “black power”. Attacking Confederate symbols is just the beginning.

    The other parallel force in the nexus of attacks on Confederate symbols stems from the plethora of revisionist American historians that emerged since the late ’60s in academia. Their works have polluted the minds of millions of students, other academics, the media, and the government, and their agenda and works have been promoted extensively by the media, particularly public broadcasting as state-sponsored propaganda. The core of their “big lie” is built on the false premise that all American history is centered around slavery and that the War between the States was over slavery. This false narrative promoted by generally Northern academics provides a foundation for the NAACP to carry out its agenda and gives their arguments academic credibility.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      “The long-term goal is to erase the contribution and historic value of white culture and history in America. And elevate that of the black man “the oppressed” to the dominant builder of America and to gain public stature through “black power”. Attacking Confederate symbols is just the beginning.”

      Thank you for candidly distilling the feelings of the pro-Confederate monument movement into one insightful post. Hahaha.

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