T.J. Loves Bacon

In his weekly email missive, Derrick Max, president of the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy, led with the following quote from Thomas Jefferson to Alexander Donald in 1788:

I had rather be shut up in a very modest cottage with my books, my family and a few old friends, dining on simple bacon, and letting the world roll on as it liked, than to occupy the most splendid post, which any human power can give.

My esteem for Jefferson knows no bounds. — JAB

 


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28 responses to “T.J. Loves Bacon”

  1. JonathanSwifter Avatar
    JonathanSwifter

    Well, Virginia's economy had been based on Hogs heads (of tobacco). 😉

  2. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    The Jefferson Council needs a fifth pillar – not just bacon, but food liberty, too.
    Remember, Cackling CommieLa the Copulating Commie (she did serve on Willie Brown’s staff back in the day) wants to limit red meat consumption.

    Hey, but she can dance, so make her Prez!

    1. Thomas Dixon Avatar
      Thomas Dixon

      Served and serviced.

  3. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    Bacon greasing the skids of satisfaction for centuries. Did Jefferson also comment on the attractions of brown sugar?

  4. Wahoo'74 Avatar
    Wahoo'74

    Yes, Mr. Jefferson was the master of the double entendre!

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Yes, also never hesitant to widely display his modesty and lack of ambition. 🙂 He woud be loving the heavy dose of Paris this week….

      1. Wahoo'74 Avatar
        Wahoo'74

        Hmm…..do I detect a shred of sarcasm there Stephen Haner?

        Who’s your Jefferson contemporary hero? Robespierre perhaps?😉

      2. Wahoo'74 Avatar
        Wahoo'74

        Hmm…..do I detect a shred of sarcasm there Stephen Haner?

        Who’s your Jefferson contemporary hero? Robespierre perhaps?😉

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Yeah right Mr. Jefferson. Would you kindly pass the plate of bacon, pleeeze.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e345629ea9b7af95cd3175a9321792b5a94781425e7ef0129c0e85ea77384da.jpg

    1. WayneS Avatar

      After being burned a couple of times by false quotes attributed to Thomas Jefferson, I started using http://www.monticello.org to check the veracity of any statements I see that are alleged to have been said/written by him. To me, the above quote appears too modern in its grammar and usage, so I looked into it.

      Monticello.org says that while there is no record of Jefferson having said or written those exact words, the quote appears to be a paraphrase of: "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now" from Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia.

      I'm not sure why anyone would paraphrase Mr. Jefferson's words in this case. I think the original wording is better and more profound.

    2. WayneS Avatar

      After being burned a couple of times by false quotes attributed to Thomas Jefferson, I started using http://www.monticello.org to check the veracity of any statements I see that are alleged to have been said/written by him. To me, the above quote appears too modern in its grammar and usage, so I looked into it.

      Monticello.org says that while there is no record of Jefferson having said or written those exact words, the quote appears to be a paraphrase of: "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now" from Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia.

      I'm not sure why anyone would paraphrase Mr. Jefferson's words in this case. I think the original wording is better and more profound.

    3. WayneS Avatar

      After being burned a couple of times by false quotes attributed to Thomas Jefferson, I started using http://www.monticello.org to check the veracity of any statements I see that are alleged to have been said/written by him. To me, the above quote appears too modern in its grammar and usage, so I looked into it.

      Monticello.org says that while there is no record of Jefferson having said or written those exact words, the quote appears to be a paraphrase of: "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now" from Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia.

      I'm not sure why anyone would paraphrase Mr. Jefferson's words in this case. I think the original wording is better and more profound.

    4. WayneS Avatar

      After being burned a couple of times by false quotes attributed to Thomas Jefferson, I started using http://www.monticello.org to check the veracity of any statements I run across that are alleged to have been said/written by him. To me, the above quote appeared a bit too modern in its grammar and usage, so I looked into it.

      Monticello.org says that while there is no record of Jefferson having said or written those exact words, the quote appears to be a paraphrase of: "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now" from Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia.

      I'm not sure why anyone would paraphrase Mr. Jefferson's words in this case. I think the original wording is better and more profound.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Nice. Never knew that. I wonder if Jefferson ever knew about BLT's? He certainly never knew about Dukes Mayonnaise.

        1. WayneS Avatar

          I've found that a lot of the memes floating around purporting to be quotes by Thomas Jefferson are actually not. Some are misattributed and were actually said/written by someone else, many are inaccurate and/or paraphrasing, and quite a few are simply made up.

          In fact, I am skeptical of all quotes attributed to our founders and I try to make sure I verify every single one before repeating them or passing them on.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            I am also skeptical of quotes. Especially about Sister HaHa, aka Kamala Harris. It is impossible all of those word salad quotes can be attributed to the VP of the USA.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            But there are a lot of her quotes that are real. Real quotes that are real are what we quote. For real they are what are quotable. Who doesn't really love a yellow school quote? Giggle, giggle, giggle. "We beat Medicare", there's a real manly quote.

  6. Carter Melton Avatar
    Carter Melton

    I am delighted to see that Mr. Jefferson refrains from using the term "fatback".

  7. WayneS Avatar

    Well played, sir.

  8. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Even though the official Scholars' Commission on Jefferson/Hemings concluded it was almost certainly not true, that was funny.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Yeah, the Stones had to quit singing about it too.

      Ok, but where then did those spitting images of Jefferson who were not melanin challenged and who served in the house come from?

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        The most likely suspect was thought to be Randolph…
        He liked to fiddle and hang around with the domestics…
        There is a whole report – 300 pages worth from 13 scholars – one thought it could be possible (hardly a ringing endorsement) and the others thought “almost certainly not”
        I personally don’t care. This is just a tactic by the Marxist Left to destroy Jefferson as part of destroying America and the West. And demeaning to those currently born of mixed race couples – what, there is something wrong with that? Also, Sally had two generations worth of Wayles parentage. She was pretty closely related to Martha Jefferson by DNA…not sure how to calculate, but they were genetically closely related.
        It is amazing to me that UVA continues to allow the story to be put out from the unvarnished, and plainly wrong, legend of all 6 children, rape, etc. One would think that could be intentional…particularly since the lead scholar of that group is a retired UVA professor, still living in Cville

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          It's an amazing world we've decayed into. Judging those guys by today's standards is profoundly absurd. Doesn't make all the things they did right, but 'ya gotta understand them in context. My understanding was that Sally's mom (Sally maybe?) was Martha's half sister and a gift from Jefferson's father in law. Didn't Sally also, coincidentally I'm sure, show up pregnant frequently and mostly only after Jefferson visited?

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Sally was the product of 2 generations of Wayles men. Very closely related to Martha from the father’s side!
            No, the timing does not work the same way for the 6 kids. Another favorite is that Jefferson asked her to be sent to Paris. He did not. He wanted someone older to be the overseer of his youngest daughter, but for some reason they sent Sally. Lots of folklore that has been received as true, that is provably false. As to the DNA – one child has the DNA from the Jefferson male line. For those who studied it extensively, TJ was deemed not the most likely – again – Randolph is the best guess. Monticello said it was TJ – I think a $10 million contribution was being dangled in front, AND it just happened to be at a time that helped a certain Slick Willie Clinton who had his own zipper problem going on…

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Tku, sounds like most of what I've seen is not so. Thought I read that Sally's mother was in Paris and that Sally came along. Actually, I really don't care who was doing what to whom close to 250 years ago.

            Our forefathers left us a pretty wonderful framework for a free society despite their foibles or the standards of the day. They enabled emancipation 80 years later and suffrage another half century after that. It's a great structure if we can keep it.

            I'm still p****d that my high school changed it's name from George Mason to Meridian because Mason owned slaves. Nothing else he did seems to matter.

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Hey, I didn’t go there, and I’m POed!
            Same with Westmoreland County – Washington & Lee High School. Now Westmoreland County High. What a joke! Was Westmoreland prominent when England was in the slave biz? Washington and Lee (and Monroe!) born in Westmoreland!
            And let’s not forget renamed community colleges – John Tyler and Thomas Nelson. I don’t care about Lord Fairfax as he was obviously a Brit…but a former President and a Revolutionary War hero? Criminal.

          4. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Renaming a high school for a general who didn't do all that well in Viet Nam does seem a bit of a stretch. George and Light Horse Harry were a lot more successful soldiers.

            It's my understanding that in addition to being the author of the Virginia Declaration of Rights that Mason as the old man of the bunch kept the whippersnappers like Jefferson and Henry focused on beating the British instead of wrangling with each other. We owe him a big debt.

          5. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            All of those guys were brilliant and understood human nature. Wasn’t he ultimately against the Constitution? I think the Anti-Federalists’ concerns just took a couple centuries to manifest as they feared…

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