Income Redistribution Through the Back Door

by James A. Bacon

Shearing the sheep

The state and federal tax codes don’t do enough to redistribute income and wealth to make “progressives” happy. When 40 percent of U.S. households don’t pay federal income tax, what’s a lefty to do?

The latest initiative: exempt lower-income people from tolls for the Downtown and Midtown tunnels in Hampton Roads.

Sure, the U.S. has a vast array of welfare programs, from Medicaid to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program (SNAP), from housing assistance to Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. Yeah, lower-income families enjoy all manner of benefits from free lunches at schools to means-tested financial aid for college. And to be sure, a vast array of nonprofit groups, supported by philanthropy, endeavors to fill gaps in the social safety net.

Then, of course, there’s an enormous black market for goods and services, estimated to run between 6% and 12% of the economy, in which maybe $2.5 trillion a year of income is never declared, which means that many lower-income Americans are less poor than reported.

But no amount of munificence is enough. Lefties can always find enough hardship cases to perpetuate their view that the American democratic-market-welfare state is as inequitable and oppressive as any social system found on the planet, to justify carving out even more preferences for low-income people.

The latest battlefront is transportation. This battle isn’t taking place in Congress. It’s playing out locally.

Virginia, like much of America, already provides transportation subsidies for poor people. A big justification for supporting buses, rail and other forms of mass transit is that poor people can’t afford to drive cars (even though 76% of households in poverty actually do own a car). Insofar as mass transit requires billions of dollars of subsidies every year — the Washington Metro receives more than $1 billion a year in state, local and federal support — this form of transportation disproportionately benefits the poor.

As a kicker, Washington metro riders who qualify for SNAP also get 50% off their Metro bus and rail tickets.

But deep blue Washington is not the only place where transportation subsidies for the poor are gaining traction. In Hampton Roads, where local leaders at least acknowledge that many poor people do have cars, a toll-relief program applying to all the region’s tunnels provides a 50% discount for drivers earning up to $65,000 a year, if they use EZ Pass transponders.

The expanded toll relief, according to The Virginian-Pilot, will provide 100% off 14 trips weekly through the tunnels for two-axle passenger vehicles. Peak hour tolls run more than $3 per trip for EZ Pass riders, implying a subsidy of up to $42 per week, or more than $2,000 per year.

Who is paying for the expanded benefit?

Reports The Virginian-Pilot: “Included in the state’s budget passed in May is $101 million in toll relief for the Hampton Roads tunnels, with a $77 million earmark in the first fiscal year and $24 million in the second.”

There are restrictions to the subsidy: only citizens of Hampton, Norfolk, Newport News, Portsmouth and Franklin need apply. The budget sets a deadline of January to implement the new funding.

Bacon’s bottom line: There’s an oppressed class in the United States, alright — it’s the taxpaying middle class. We are sheep to be shorn.

And, for all the trillions spent ameliorating their condition, the poor are still with us.

 


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53 responses to “Income Redistribution Through the Back Door”

  1. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Paying for the bad decision to privatizeโ€ฆ. รœberquerung des Elizabeth River.

    1. LesGabriel Avatar
      LesGabriel

      We privatized the people who wrote the state budget???

    2. LesGabriel Avatar
      LesGabriel

      We privatized the people who wrote the state budget???

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        We sold valuable assets at garage sales prices to a foreign business. The Aussies must LOVE Virginia. First, they nail the Lottery, then they install and collect all the Hampton Roads photo-red systems, and then the Portsmouth-Norfolk tunnelsโ€ฆ

        1. LesGabriel Avatar
          LesGabriel

          So you blame the Aussies who took advantage of an opportunity given them by our state legislators and who are now funding them with our tax dollars?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Hell no. Good on โ€˜em for taking advantage of Lottery rules and monopolizing enough lottery terminals to almost lock the win, outfoxing McDonnell (apparently not difficult when you include Rt. 460 widening too) and convincing the cities in HR to pay them to ticket red light runners.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I'm thinking we could easily fund the roads from red light and speed cameras these days.

            And how appropriate!

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Probably could, if the deals were arranged to provide money to the state or locales, but itโ€™s the contractor that makes the big bucks at ZERO risk. The contractor gets all fines until an agreed upon amount then comes the split. If there are insufficient tickets issued, the city makes up the shortfallโ€ฆ such a deal.

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Do these contractors take advantage of Virginia's lax campaign finance laws to secure their position?

          5. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I shudder to think. But, buying someone an RV seems like a good idea.

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Seriouslyโ€ฆ did you really read that as blaming the Aussies? Just want to know what led you to that conclusion?

          7. LesGabriel Avatar
            LesGabriel

            I took it that you were trying shift the blame from our state legislators who arranged for these problems.

          8. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            they didnโ€™t hold a gun to Richmondโ€™s headโ€ฆ besides, theyโ€™re foreigners, theyโ€™re not supposed to have guns in their carryon.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    "The Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel Expansion is the largest highway construction project in Virginiaโ€™s history. This transformative undertaking will widen the current four-lane segments along nearly ten miles of the I-64 corridor in Norfolk and Hampton, with new twin tunnels across the harbor. The expansion will increase capacity, ease major congestion, and enhance travel time reliability. Including the construction contract and ownerโ€™s costs, the projectโ€™s total budget is over $3.9 billion, making it one of the largest infrastructure projects in the country"

    " โ€œIncluded in the stateโ€™s budget passed in May is $101 million in toll relief for the Hampton Roads tunnels, with a $77 million earmark in the first fiscal year and $24 million in the second.โ€

    I'd prefer that the users of the tunnel pay for it and if folks down that way want to give a discount to some folks while others who use the tunnel will pay more, that's fine, no skin off my nose like apparently is off of JAB's grievance-injured nose… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    The key to keeping the roads open whether it's NoVa or Hampton (or I-81 or I-64 or I-95 north of Fredericksburg is tolls.

    It's the only thing that will convince some folks that it's not a good thing to clog up the roads just to be doing so without any real need.

  3. Clarity77 Avatar
    Clarity77

    "And, for all the trillions spent ameliorating their condition, the poor are still with us."
    Yes and there was a Man who walked the earth some 2,000 years ago who put it simply and clearly, "the poor ye shall have with you always." And here we are in manifestly the wealthiest nation ever created. It is quite simply a choice most of us know best not to make. As you then have no choices.

    But then there are of course these clowns forever running around foolishly thinking life was meant to be fair. Hence, all the schemes such as related in this article. Never works and never will. Oh but they would delude themselves into thinking they know better than the Man. Fools everyone.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    "The Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel Expansion is the largest highway construction project in Virginiaโ€™s history. This transformative undertaking will widen the current four-lane segments along nearly ten miles of the I-64 corridor in Norfolk and Hampton, with new twin tunnels across the harbor. The expansion will increase capacity, ease major congestion, and enhance travel time reliability. Including the construction contract and ownerโ€™s costs, the projectโ€™s total budget is over $3.9 billion, making it one of the largest infrastructure projects in the country"

    " โ€œIncluded in the stateโ€™s budget passed in May is $101 million in toll relief for the Hampton Roads tunnels, with a $77 million earmark in the first fiscal year and $24 million in the second.โ€

    I'd prefer that the users of the tunnel pay for it and if folks down that way want to give a discount to some folks while others who use the tunnel will pay more, that's fine, no skin off my nose like apparently is off of JAB's grievance-injured nose… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    The key to keeping the roads open whether it's NoVa or Hampton (or I-81 or I-64 or I-95 north of Fredericksburg is tolls.

    It's the only thing that will convince some folks that it's not a good thing to clog up the roads just to be doing so without any real need.

    1. FYI – The story is about the Mid-town and Downtown tunnels between Norfolk and Portsmouth, not the HRBT.

      Otherwise, I more or less agree with you.

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        When are these bridges and tunnels, if ever, paid off? If anything, tolls on bridges and roads long since paid for are snatch and grabs by leisure travelers funded by those who work.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Yeah, I wasn't sure which ones but yeah… let those folks pay for them and some of us when we venture down that way.

      3. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        When are these bridges and tunnels, if ever, paid off? If anything, tolls on bridges and roads long since paid for are snatch and grabs by leisure travelers funded by those who work.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          roads and bridges are NEVER paid off because there are THREE components to them:

          original construction, maintenance and operations.

          Fully 1/2 of the transportation tax revenues for the state pay for the annual costs of maintenance and operations.

          It's sort like saying that your mortgage for your house get's "paid off".

          1. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            And yet, the tolls generate revenue in excess if their maintenance and operations expenses which is used to subsidize roads and bridges that are far less traveled.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I don’t know that. the other 1/2 of transportation taxes collected DOES pay for new bridges and roads that will then get added to the list of roads/bridges that will continue to require money for maintenance and operations. The more we build, the more we’ll have in M&O costs over the longer run. Some toll roads to pay for other transportation. I think the I-95 express lanes take some tolls to pay for transit and VRE.

            But these days, the tolls themselves are also used more and more to “shape” congestion on the roads
            by increasing the cost of the toll when demand for the roads starts to exceed their capacity and threatens
            gridlock. Doing so discourages travel at peak hour and encourages people, who can, to shift their timeframe to times outside of peak demand and/or HOV. In most urbanized areas, we are done building new roads. There is no more room to build them so we have to manage the ones we do have – to keep them open and operating even at peak demand.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            re: " But these days, the tolls themselves are also used more and more to "shape" congestion on the roads by increasing the cost of the toll when demand for the roads starts to exceed their capacity and threatens
            gridlock. "

            re: Reason Foundation:
            " โ€œThe reason that Virginia has the highest tolls is because Virginia's toll lanes are in urban areas and designed to manage congestion,โ€ Feigenbaum told The Center Square."

            Even places that have had existing static tolls for years are being considered for congestion-management tolls – i.e. the cost of the toll is keyed to the congestion levels.

            Again, a different purpose than revenue to pay costs – per se – pricing the road use according to how congested it is – basically to try to keep the road/tunnel relatively free-flowing vice gridlock.

            To discourage trips that don't have to be made at that time vs trips that have to be.

            People simply do not understand or even if they do, disagree with the concept but it is incumbent on those who manage the roads to keep them free-flowing even at rush hour if they can. We simply don't have the money nor the physical real-estate to build enough road capacity to serve peak hour and even if we did, it would be dumb to do – for all the hours there would be empty lanes.

            It's basically doing roads, the same way airlines do seats and flights so that they keep most of their planes in the air most of the time instead of having enough to meet peak demand but then parking them at non-peak hours when demand is lower.

        2. That's a good question. The Midtown and Downtown tunnels have had tolls on them at least since I was a little kid in the late 1960s/early 70s.

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      Why do you think the " … folks down that way want to give a discount to some folks while others who use the tunnel will pay more …".

      From Jim's article:

      Reports The Virginian-Pilot: โ€œIncluded in the stateโ€™s budget passed in May is $101 million in toll relief for the Hampton Roads tunnels, with a $77 million earmark in the first fiscal year and $24 million in the second.

      That sounds more like you and I are paying for this, Larry.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        You're right, I goofed up. My bad. Now I'm mad!

        And this could turn out real bad if the folks in NoVa
        ask for similar treatment!

      2. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        You're right, I goofed up. My bad. Now I'm mad!

        And this could turn out real bad if the folks in NoVa
        ask for similar treatment!

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Meanwhile, the low-information voters in Northern Virginia who elect politicians even dumber than themselves stand by slack jawed and glassy eyed while their pockets get picked.

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Amen!!!

    4. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      REALLY? how so?

    5. LesGabriel Avatar
      LesGabriel

      If it is coming out of the Virginia state budget, it isn't just "folks down that way" who are giving the discount, it is all of us.

  5. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    The big problem with Metro is the crash in ridership. It was falling before covid, totally crashed during covid and has not come back – it's around 60% of pre-covid traffic in 2024.

    https://www.wmata.com/initiatives/ridership-portal/Metrorail-Ridership-Summary.cfm

    Adding to the incompetence of our state and regional governments is the fact that Metro was much expanded during the period defined in the chart (2012 – today). The Silver Line opened in two phases, adding five stations in 2014 and six in 2022. On the Yellow and Blue Lines, an additional infill station at Potomac Yard opened on May 19, 2023.

    12 new stations and ridership has fallen through the floor?

  6. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Howzit possible that "the poor are still with us?" Could that result be related to rising incomes and costs of living? Increased population? Failure of common wealths to ensure fair sharing of resources? JAB answers his conclusory observation.

    "But no amount of munificence is enough. Lefties can always find enough hardship cases to perpetuate their view that the American democratic-market-welfare state is as inequitable and oppressive as any social system found on the planet, to justify carving out even more preferences for low-income people."

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      less poor people who are less poor than before?

      all or nothing?

  7. Super Brain Avatar
    Super Brain

    46% of Federal spending goes to folks 65 and over.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Maybe 1/2 of Federal spending is Social Security and Medicare which people paid FICA taxes for, not income tax.
      right? It's money they earned themselves as they worked. Mandatory mind you, but a good thing that experience has taught us.

      1. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        They are receiving far more than they paid in, even adjusting for inflation. https://www.federalbudgetinpictures.com/retirees-get-more-than-they-paid/

        1. LesGabriel Avatar
          LesGabriel

          And is that the fault of the retirees, or those who wrote the rules?

          1. Not Today Avatar
            Not Today

            Same demo soโ€ฆboth.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          far more from SS/Medicare than paid in?

          You know it's a completely separate fund , right?

          FICA taxes are collected and paid out in benefits, and no other Federal money is involved.

          This is why you hear that if they don't make adjustments, they'll have to reduce payouts.

          SS is an annuity.

          Which means for some who paid in, and then died , they did not get back all they paid in before they died.

          All annuities whether SS or private work that way.

          Most retirement pensions work that way. You get your pension for as long as you live no matter how much you paid in but when you die, that's it. Your family does not continue to get your pension.

          This is for SS and Medicare Part A (hospital).

          Medicare Part B is a whole different critter and IS funded by Federal money and IS subsidized AND it is insurance of last resort for most who could not get affordable health insurance or even get any health insurance past age 65 if there was no Medicare and insurance companies used medical underwriting.

          Many older people today would likely not be alive without Medicare.

  8. Lefty665 Avatar

    If $24M is the cost of toll relief in the second year, what is the $77M in the first year for? It would seem that if anything the first year toll relief would be a little less than increased traffic in the second year would cost. What is the extra $53M+ in the 1st year for?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      advertising.

  9. Bob X from Texas Avatar
    Bob X from Texas

    The proponents of government transportation are never satisfied. They build commuter train systems to places people donโ€™t want to go from places people donโ€™t live or work and wonder why no one rides their trains.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Transit used to be private originally though, not govt. And govt-run trains in Europe and Asia are real people-movers so apparently over there they actually do serve places where people want to go.

      1. LesGabriel Avatar
        LesGabriel

        Are European and Asian legislators smarter than ours, or only sometimes?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Well, they know how to do trains and transit and we seem to not.

  10. Alternate Opinion Avatar
    Alternate Opinion

    It's not just poor and lower income people getting a subsidy. In the DC Region Federal workers have had a similar benefit for years.

    Learn more – Federal Commuter Benefits

    Keyword search – "Transit Subsidy Benefit Program"

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      And I would assume Federal workers and maybe Federal contractors would get a similar benefit in Tidewater?

      1. Alternate Opinion Avatar
        Alternate Opinion

        I would assume. Where there's a will there's a way, lol.

  11. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    โ€œโ€ฆwhich means that many lower-income Americans are less poor than reported.โ€

    So the Conservative position is that poor people arenโ€™t really poor.

    And of course the corollary – the rich really arenโ€™t rich.

    โ€œAnd, for all the trillions spent ameliorating their condition, the poor are still with us.โ€

    But you just said the poor really arenโ€™t poor so maybe it is working after allโ€ฆ ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Yes, unless the "poor" problem is fixed 100% and there are no more poor – our policies to reduce the number and level of poverty, have "failed".

      Yes, indeed. A tried and true Conservative/GOP sound bite.

      Works with crime also as well as a number of other things.

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