Virginia’s S.O.B
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43 responses to “Virginia’s S.O.B”
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Saw all this on an episode of Dr. Sheldon Cooper’s online show, “Fun with Flags.” 🙂
Oh, Sic Semper Tyrannis must remain. Very important message. They could simplify the design, get rid of the floral ring for example.
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Oh, but it can’t Mr. Haner. The flag must come down. You see it was adopted officially April 30th, 1861 during Virginia’s Secession Convention. Therefore, it is a symbol of the Lost Cause. Don’t try and backdate it to the creation of the seal. Enslavers Richard Henry Lee, George Mason, and George Wythe made the design. The poor old left. Hundreds of public buildings and schools fly this flag every day in plain sight. The side effects of the psychologically unsafe spaces are incalculable. It is a cool flag. I love it. It has a great story. My 4th great grandmother sewed together a state flag for the newly recruited Chatham Grays in May of 1861. Made of silk from donated ladies dresses. Preserved in the Museum of the Confederacy or whatever it is called now.
https://www.scvvirginia.org/1861-virginia
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Ah, but the current flag is more relevant… it exposes the boobs.
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The 61 flag reminds me of Xena the Princess Warrior.
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My home state of Alabama’s flag is large red X on a white field. It looks like an illiterate signed a document.. When I lived in Atlanta the flag was changed over the protests of the “flaggers”. I now live in Tennessee (grandson) and I think the state flag is designed well. Football helmets have design issues also.
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Alabama’s flag does not look like an illiterate’s signature to me, it looks like a St. Andrew’s Cross.
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Well, Whitehead has sealed the fate of the flag. I knew the Great Seal had a longer history but didn’t know about the current flag design being adopted in 1861. He’s right. Kaput.
Texas, the state of my birth, remains a favorite flag and I’ve always liked the golden bear representing the golden state, another flag with words: California Republic. After Virginia I lived longest in California.
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Well, Whitehead has sealed the fate of the flag. I knew the Great Seal had a longer history but didn’t know about the current flag design being adopted in 1861. He’s right. Kaput.
Texas, the state of my birth, remains a favorite flag and I’ve always liked the golden bear representing the golden state, another flag with words: California Republic. After Virginia I lived longest in California.
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Despite the refreshing tone and subject matter of this article, some will find vexing (light pun) issues to post in criticism or support. Thanx for capturing some non-normative material on BR.
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I’m sorry. Who appointed these people “experts?”
The old Utah flag was better.
Sic semper tyrannis rocks. And needs to again!-
Obviously, the legislature in Utah disagrees with you.
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Mitt Romney.
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Such a discussion reminds me of the joke that museum curators say about museums that they hate: books on a wall.
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I concede that the design of the Virginia flag is less than ideal, but no state flag matches the awesomeness of “Sic Semper Tyrannis.”
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Some even shout it in theaters!
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OK…have to admit…even though you are habitually wrong…that was funny!
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It is not possible for the appearance of an item to be objectively terrible. Anyone who claims they can objectively judge the aesthetics of an object is being pretentious and can ‘objectively’ be criticized for having an unjustifiably high opinion of themselves and an exaggerated sense of their own importance.
This North American Vexillological Association can put forth opinions regarding the flag of the Commonwealth, but cannot legitimately claim those opinions are objective.
Beauty always has been, and always will be, in the eye of the beholder.
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The “chick with a stick” needs to go. A simple orange “V” with two blue swords criss-crossed underneath along with “Sic Semper Tyrannis” would be a great change. Just make sure that the handles of the swords are smooth.
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To show my willingness to compromise, I will agree to that, as long as the flag’s background color is maroon…
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With green and gold stripes.
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How about a gold border surrounding a green inner border? Or a St. Andrews Cross with one leg being gold and the other green?
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Perhaps something like this – as a compromise, of course:
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How about a gold border surrounding a green inner border? Or a St. Andrews Cross with one leg being gold and the other green?
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Well, given Blackbeard’s connection to W&M, maybe a tiling of green and gold skulls and bones?
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FWIW, it’s a guy. He’s Arete (Greek) or Virtus (Roman) god of virtue.
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The motto Sic Semper Tyrannis was used during the Civil War on the Regimental Flag of the 22nd United States Colored Infantry. See https://jubiloemancipationcentury.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/usct-regimental-flag-22nd-united-states-colored-infantry/
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Cool. They knew more Latin than 99% of current Virginians, per Dick’s comment elsewhere. 🙂
As to DJ’s Wahoo Wannabe/Cavalier design, that’s a no….
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They weren’t gender confused either.
Virtus is a male. For some reason, the Confederates gave him gynecomastia.
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Maybe instead of justice on a tyrant, it could be some Karen standing atop a mound of burning books. The motto could be “[comment deleted].”
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Some are already offended by her bare breast. Ain’t that enough for you? I figured you’d instead go right to the fact that a Roman goddess represents a culture and economy very dependent on slavery and thus cancellation is imperative!
If y0u are frustrated looking for Sheldon’s show, BTW, it’s fictional. None of you people do humor so I’m sure you never saw “Big Bang Theory.”
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Good thing it’s not Michelangelo’s David.
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Virginia is not above exposing its boobs. In fact, we often elevate them by electing them.
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I have no problem with the state seal and its “Sic Semper Tyrannis” motto. But, let’s be realistic. On a flag on a 15-foot pole, one cannot read those words or even recognize the rest of the image on the flag. Furthermore, I would wager that 99 percent of the population, including Virginians, do not know what those Latin words mean.
There is an on-line game in which one identifies states by their shape and then answers questions about the state. One of the follow-up questions is identification of the state flag from a line-up of eight state flags. When Virginia was the answer, if I had not been from Virginia, I would not have been able to identify the flag.
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Agree with you on that, I had learned it a long time ago but candidly forgot. So this has been a great read and refresher, not to mention the nice fun with flags diversion (I can see Sheldon doing that clip now). The more we learn about the flag, the more we should keep it IMO, look at it as a teachable moment!
Thanks for the posting.
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Then the education blob is the problem. Virginia history in 4th grade and 7th grade taught that in Richmond County many years ago. The schools used to not be awful…
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Just a black flag with Death To Tyrants will suffice.
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How about a black flag with “RAID” on it? Or, is that mixing logos?
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I redesigned the Fluvanna County seal/flag a few years ago, but the Board of Supervisors did not like it:
The Latin more or less translates to “Now is Not the Time”.
I’ve since learned that a more accurate Latin phrasing would be Nunc Non Est Tempus.
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Uh, isn’t there religious significance to the dogwood?
I say let’s use the bird! Easily recognized by it’s scarlet plumage…
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/2309a81/2147483647/strip/true/crop/6198×4165+0+0/resize/1200×806!/format/webp/quality/80/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F9d%2F81%2Fcf9713154cba925354debd427e81%2F968591-sd-me-pentecost-mass-003.jpgOr, there is the other bird; the one oft seen on the road.
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Uh, isn’t there religious significance to the dogwood?
I say let’s use the bird! Easily recognized by it’s scarlet plumage…
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/2309a81/2147483647/strip/true/crop/6198×4165+0+0/resize/1200×806!/format/webp/quality/80/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F9d%2F81%2Fcf9713154cba925354debd427e81%2F968591-sd-me-pentecost-mass-003.jpgOr, there is the other bird; the one oft seen on the road.
FWIW, I like the SC flag too. Arizona’s ain’t shabby either.
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The dogwood is a no go. It would be confused with Mississippi’s new flag. Here is one all could rally around since they act like they own the state now.
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Ya know, once you really look at that logo, you can’t unsee it. The spousal unit’s #1 girlfriend had to tell us that.
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