Transgender Medical Care for Children – Do not Parents Have a Role?
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46 responses to “Transgender Medical Care for Children – Do not Parents Have a Role?”
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“Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.”
Vladamir Lenin.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Thomas Jefferson
Am I the only person who thinks these two quotes might get to be pretty prophetic?
Democrats are badly underestimating the majority of Americans who viscerally oppose the government’s attempt to take control of their children against their will.
Hopefully this fall in Virginia will be a non-violent wake up call for Dems to see the error of their ways.
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Aristophanes was right.
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I find it interesting that the Endocrine Society is a big proponent of life-altering treatments for youth. Transgenders represent a fantastic new growth market.
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Where in the Journalist’s Oath does it say, “First, do no harm”?
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You do the WP article a great disservice. Nowhere in that article is there any suggestion that parents should not be involved in decisions regarding their children who may identify with another gender. In fact, it could be regarded as written for parents who have questions about this whole issue.
The AAP piece is excellect, but, if the WP had written that piece as its article, you would have been all over the paper for advocating that parents just acquiesce and accept their child’s choice.
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What? Sherlock mischaracterized a WP article?! Say it isn’t so!
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The WP article dismisses parents by ignoring them.
Read the AAP piece again, Dick. It comes nowhere “advocating parents just acquiesce”.
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That is how you would have characterized if it had been a WP article.
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I agree with the AAP and disagree with the WP article. Simple as that. Doesn’t matter who published those two articles.
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“The first minimizes the role of parents; the other considers parents as partners.
That is the primary political bone of contention in both the CRT in K-12 public schools and transgender student model policies controversies. The rest is details. To argue otherwise is sophistry. So pick a side.”
So glad to have you on my side when the likes of Tanner Cross say that their “religious beliefs” dictate that they must ignore the wishes of parents when it comes to how he will address their transgender child. For once you seem to have picked the right side.
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Another endocrinologist heard from. First amendment protects Mr. Cross.
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So when, exactly, do you want parents to be considered as partners? Only when they adopt your ideology, I suppose.
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Not according to SCOTUS. It protects his right to speak his mind on the subject, but his professed intent to address his students using names and pronouns he bases on birth gender violates the Title IX of EAA discrimination clause, which is identical to that of Title VII of CRA. Even Alito can’t twist himself that much
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Naw The half-wit troll more akin to a Proctologist.
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Tanner isn’t just dismissing parents for his religious beliefs but the law too.
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It’s illegal to get a tattoo or body piercing in Virginia without your parents present until you are 18 years old. How could it possibly be OK to have any gender altering procedure or treatment without the explicit permission of the parents?
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It’s medical. Really, DJ, come to the 20th century.
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I believe it is medic al in some cases and not in others.
“She has since set up a support network for detransitioners and said she had been contacted by about 300 people, including some who had surgically transitioned. She admitted she could not verify all their stories.
“Most of us are same-sex attracted,” she told BBC News. “Most of us identify as either lesbian or bisexual and a lot of us are autistic.”
Charlie said many of these women felt at the time they had sought treatment, “they were not in a state that they were able to give consent [to medically transition] because they felt so unwell with eating disorders or depression”.
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A medical abomination…
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No John, a child of God.
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Is it legally possible for someone under 18 to have a gender altering procedure or treatment without the permission of the parents?
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Gender altering treatment (i.e. counseling with a school psychologist) – I don’t know. Can a parent be accused of committing a “risk of neglect” if they decide that the child should not see a psychologist?
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I would define “treatment” as something beyond “counseling”; hormone treatments, for example.
Unless the child were deemed suicidal, I don’t think a parent could legitimately be accused of committing a “risk of neglect” by refusing to allow a child to see a psychologist.
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Again, requires a lawyer to answer.
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You mean a judge. A legal opinion and a lawyer’s opinion are not the same thing.
For example, “You cannot indict a sitting President” is a lawyer’s opinion not a legal one.
A prosecutor who won’t charge for possession, a cop who won’t cite for less than 5 over, etc., etc,
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Ask Creigh Deeds. And by that, I mean he knows first hand the cost of not being able to access the mental health assets we need to have available for our children.
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Is it possible to do it without their knowledge? In which case, this is kinda moot. What parent wouldn’t notice his child missing for a few days and the presurgical biling on their insurance? If they could then they have no argument to exert rights.
It goes waaay deeper than transgender. These parents don’t want little Mary and Jonny getting birth control or the facts either.
900 children drown in pools in 2018. Let’s talk about parental rights.
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A pediatrician whom I know very well tells me that it it would not be covered by insurance without the parent’s permission, or, at least, knowledge.
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So moot. Since it cannot possibly escape their knowledge, and involves expense beyond a pack of condoms, it cannot escape their permission.
If a child could avoid the insurance and the expense, they could also petition for emancipation.
Methinks the Captain is just playing with his balls. Queeg! Captain Queeg! That’s who I meant.
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Do you have kids? What would have been your position if we were talking about your own?
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How do you know I’m not?
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We need a lawyer to answer that.
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Parents are responsible for their children, absent a court order terminating the parent’s rights to the child, prior arrangements to put the child in another’s custody or an emergency. Inherent in this obligation is the power and the right to make fundamental decisions about care and treatment of the child. It’s been many years but I still remember studying this issue in my Family Law course. Courts went quite far in protecting this right, most especially with respect to parents who may not be the best.
Of course, there is a time and place for state intervention. But there needs to be some showing of potential harm to the child. And state intervention is subject to judicial review.
Do we really want some bureaucrat making decisions about body-altering surgery for a minor? Since the progressive argument is that children, even teens, lack the maturity to make decisions related to crimes (e.g., homicide) such that we no long subject minors to the death penalty or, generally, life without parole, why would we believe the same child has sufficient maturity to decide on surgery that mutilates parts of her/his body?
Of course, if we had genuine reporters in the MSM, someone would start asking this question. But being perceived as woke is more important than competence most especially in journalism, formerly known as a profession.
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Technically, what is the difference between a bureaucrat and a judge? Both are bound by the law.
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One has been educated in the law. One has not.
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But they’re still bureaucrats nonetheless. It just means they know it.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/666375
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Plenty of tales of detransitioning.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50548473
A child should not be able to physically transition even if the parents agree.
A child should not be able to smoke legal marijuana or drink alcohol even of the parents agree.
“In 2018, 900 children and teens under age 20 died from drowning and 7,200 were seen at a hospital emergency department for a drowning event, with 35% either hospitalized or transferred for further care.”
Hell, parents should first teach their kids to swim.
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If the schools are looking for things to do … maybe drop the CRT training and teach teachers to give swimming lessons.
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If you’re looking for something to do, you could apply CRT to the proposed and existing laws to prove they are oppressing parents rights.
Sauce for the goose…
BTW, careful with that swimmer stuff. College swimming requirements were definitely Jim Crow era stuff.
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Yep. I knew a lady who could not graduate from Madison College due to the swimming requirement.
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ODU for the young lady I knew in the same boat, which was always a wonderment to me since she really did have her own Mae West.
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My prediction: This will one day explode when white medical professionals perform transgendered medical treatments on a Black or Muslim child without family approval. As some of the medications and procedures can’t be reversed and compromise the ability to reproduce it will be potentially considered an attempt to stop BIPOCs from reproducing. I guarantee one day this will be categorized as similar to the Tuskegee experiments.
I have no ill will towards transgender people. I know they must be suffering. But performing irreversible procedures on children is at a minimum jumping up and down on very thin ice.
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My prediction?
Republican opposition to on demand abortion will evaporate when science develops a prenatal LGBT genetic test.
“If that’s all that troubles you, here take my veil, wrap it round your head, and hold your tongue.”
Why would a child want to have a ex parental discussion concerning sex and their sexual persuasion with a doctor when there are so many willing and well trained priests?
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