The Assimilation of Hispanics in Virginia


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  1. Typo in type. “The R² is only 0.933” should read 0.0933 per the graph.

  2. Your analysis correctly shows there is no such things as a “Hispanic”. If you call a Puerto Rican a Mexican, it is a fighting word. The same with many of the other countries mentioned. So while it is a convenient word for those engaged in racial politics (like our current White House occupants), it is actually an unfair racist name. These are human beings and should be treated as such.

    By the way, the high income of “Hispanics” in Virginia would be primarily attributable to the large number of federal employees living in the state as the federal government hires a much higher population of minorities than anyone else. And since the feds pay more than most employers for similar work, it skews the numbers upward.

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    Totally agree with JohnBRs’ assessment – not at all sure what the infatuation is with “assimilation” but as the younger generation advances – we may see less concern about it.

    not sure about the WH comment.. I suspect they are more supportive of immigrants and less concerned about “assimilation” than those who are fairly vocal about immigration now days.

    we could fix the illegal immigration issue with one law – a guest worker law that puts in jail any employer who violates it and not have one word demonizing those who came here for work and opportunity.

    1. TooManyTaxes Avatar
      TooManyTaxes

      Another good solution would be to deny a federal income tax deduction for wage and any other compensation to any person not verifying eligibility to work in the U.S based on citizenship or lawful presence including a guest worker permit. Then put out a non-taxable reward to anyone who turns in anyone that is found to be in violation of the tax law.

      Remember income tax fraud was how they got Al Capone.

  4. Oh brother… There already is a guest worker law. No one follows it. In fact there are several types of guest worker laws. For instance, an upper middle class student attending the Philippine version of Harvard University pays 4 grand to come here so they can live in an over charged by the week studio sized shit hole with 7 other students to dole out ice cream for hours on end. Oh and they pay SS taxes on their meager wages too. Gotta keep it legal don’t ya know.

    After 90 days they go to JFK to fly home and are replaced by 8 Eastern European students. All for the privilege of learning about “assimilating into American culture.” If they are lucky they got to see something of America. Like one day at Busch Gardens.

    Wanna know what they were discussing while waiting for the Chinese bus to take them to a subway stop in NYC? The tourist visa that they can’t get in Manila, and the fact that Latinos are lucky because they can simply cross the border.

  5. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    Growing up in California fifty years ago I always appreciated how well the Hispanics had assimilated us….

    The Pope is no slouch of a politician. Choosing to canonize Father Serra at this time and on a US visit was a subtle (perhaps too subtle) reminder to the Northern Europeans that St. Augustine was settled half a century before Jamestown and the Conquistadors were consolidating California while we were squabbling with the redcoats. Seriously, who is assimilating whom?

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    Well, no talking about temporary worker VISA programs per se for non-Latinos, as some of them are, in my view, clearly predatory …. but also much better enforced than guest worker laws for Latinos from Mexico. How many “illegal” non-Latinos do we hear about?

    but the reason why Guest Worker programs don’t work in the US (but DOES work in Canada) is because we do not enforce serious sanctions on employers who violate the rules. Instead, we demonize those coming here and we’re never going to stop that as long as they know
    they can get a job once they get here.

    We need an environment where employers KNOW that if they hire illegals – it’s going to cost them far more than they’d ever save in labor costs. Make it like violations of pollution laws or safety laws. Put a fine of $1000.00 a day or more for each violation – and collect it – even if the business goes broke. Make a public example of the ones who flaunt the law.

    1. TooManyTaxes Avatar
      TooManyTaxes

      I think there are huge numbers of non-Hispanics in the country illegally. And many from overstaying visas. It further seems to me that there is a belief that, generally, the Hispanics here illegally are a lot poorer than others here illegally and that, by and large, poor people are sucking up large amounts of tax dollars in the form of government services, especially when they have children born in the U.S. who clearly qualify for services under existing laws. It would be interesting to see some unbiased data on how much members of recognizable groups cost.

      Also, there is a clear separation between who receives the benefits of hiring workers not allowed to work in the U.S. and those paying for the associated costs. The workers themselves obviously benefit. Those who can hire workers at below market compensation benefit. And those who purchase goods and services from such companies may benefit in the form of lower prices. So do government workers as more education, social service and corrections jobs are needed.

      Local taxpayers clearly incur higher costs because low-income, less educated, and non-English speaking workers are in their communities. Without acknowledging that many are here illegally or only because their parents are here illegally, Fairfax County Public Schools officials have stated on many occasions that their operating costs are much higher than if we didn’t have large number of children who “have great needs.” A PC term for connected with illegal immigration. Criminal justice costs are higher. And illegal immigration also often results in unlawful boarding houses, illegal home businesses; and tax evasion. I think much of this split between those who receive benefits and those who pay higher costs are fueling some of the support for Trump.

      I fully agree with Larry that a guest worker program that protects both the worker and the public could be operated successfully if both Parties had not sold out to special interests favoring illegal immigration. We need aggressive enforcement against businesses violating the law. Permit private lawsuit that include attorneys fees if successful and much of the problem will go away. Enforcement with a fair guest worker program that protects both the public and the workers will do a lot to fix things and detoxify the political arena.

      1. I sure don’t agree we should keep those well-educated middle-class English-speaking Syrian refugees out of the United States; we ought to be soliciting as many as possible to come here! Not as guest workers but as permanent green-carded residents.

        The Pope was absolutely correct to remind us our ancestors all immigrated here. But beyond moral obligation, if we don’t have the sense to grant a preference to those immigrants whose net contribution to our economy will be most positive, fie on us! Of course, that implies we need a way to weigh this and to keep the less-positive contributors out. But our current immigration process, based on cultural attitudes and quotas frozen in time 100 years ago, is grossly counterproductive in light of the needs of today’s United States.

        1. TooManyTaxes Avatar
          TooManyTaxes

          I tend to agree. We need immigrants with good educations and valuable skills. Not only will they be able to support their families, but also contribute to economic and social growth.

          But we don’t need to import poverty. We have enough poor people now. This is not the mid-1800s where America needed more strong backs. We need people who will easily contribute more than their costs. And that requires immigrants who are educated and skilled wherever they come from originally.

          I do disagree about 100 year old quotas. The 1965 immigration bill changed quotas dramatically.

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