Smoke Less, Save More


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  1. LarrytheG Avatar

    re: ” Most of those costs accrue to the individual doing the smoking”

    Au Contraire!

    YOU and I – ARE paying – if those smokers have the same health insurance we have!!!!

    I DO NOTE a couple of things about Obamacare though –

    1. – one of the factors in the premiums is if the applicant smokes – the insurance companies in some (not all) states CAN charge up to a 50% surcharge.

    2. – one of the included (MEC) services of all the plans is smoking cessation programs.

    but without question -you and I pay – for Medicare, MedicAid and Employer-provided – health costs for smokers.

    1. For what it’s worth, WalletHub attributes less than 10% of the cost of smoking to health care. While society pays for much, perhaps most, of that, the smokers themselves do incur out-of-pocket expenses for their own medical treatment.

      Then there’s the gruesome reality that because smokers die earlier than non-smokers (on average), society incurs less Medicare and Social Security obligation.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    people who die of lung cancer and heart disease – do not die quick nor cheap.

    there is a reason why Obamacare allow insurance companies to charge up to a 50% surcharge on exchange policies.

    Neither employer-provided nor Medicare do that.

    ” Smoking costs the United States billions of dollars each year.1,5
    Total economic cost of smoking is more than $300 billion a year, including

    Nearly $170 billion in direct medical care for adults

    More than $156 billion in lost productivity due to premature death and exposure to secondhand smoke”

    http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/

    and again , remember the next time we talk about people knowing better what to do with their money than government and your premise that govt has no legitimate role in discouraging use.

    How do you feel about pot and illegal drug use? do you think similarly with respect to the legitimate role of govt in discouraging it? If drugs were not illegal and people could use them legally – would you still consider the involvement of the govt in discouraging it – wrong?

    compare cigarette use with pot/cocaine use…. if you made cigarettes illegal would you end up with the same problem with pot/cocaine?

    😉

  3. slowlane Avatar

    A correction, Jim:….. the WalletHub chart shows that Virginia has the 13th LOWEST smoking cost of all states. I suspected as much, since Virginia and other states mapped in dark-blue have low cigarette tax rates (and overall lower cost of living), while states shown as light-blue have the highest cigarette tax rates (along with higher cost of living including medical costs).

    1. Slowlane, you really nailed me there! I apologize for the sloppiness. That’s what comes from trying to church out two blog posts in one morning. I’ll make the change.

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