Paid Leave and Paid Sick Days


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31 responses to “Paid Leave and Paid Sick Days”

  1. who pays?
    Virginia is losing it’s top ranking for biz.

  2. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    I delivered a similar message in a news interview at noon. The advocates just want to mandate their vision and refuse to listen, learn or (heaven forbid) compromise. What could the people who actually run HR operations know about any of this? The word is arrogance.

  3. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    PTO. A lot of companies are going to it. Fortunately mine didn’t. But then, we had 3 types of leave; vacation, sick, and professional, and they accrued differently. Sick leave was cashed out with no more than 40 hours carried over on Jan 1.

    Of course, the sick leave was tied to our Short Term Disability insurance, so that may have been the reason they didn’t just simply go to PTO. The company policy was more than 3 sick days in a pay period required a doctor’s note. Again, that may have had something to do with the STD, or maybe the short term disability.

    Professional leave came with an account that provided 3 days per year and $1000, minimum, that could be used only for conferences or education. The money could be used for books and journals. This was owned by the company. The employee only had use of it, and yes, when I retired, it all went back to the company.

    1. “Again, that may have had something to do with the STD, or maybe the short term disability.”

      I see what you did there…

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        I can’t help it. I’m sick. Help me!

        1. Apparently you are. Does your wife know?

          1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
            Nancy_Naive

            Funny you should ask. She’s constantly saying she didn’t realize I was so twisted when we were dating.

            Whenever she feels compelled to apologize for me , often too, she says,”He wasn’t like this before we married.”

            I bite my lip.

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    I am not sure what the point of this post is. One could make the point that, if a majority of businesses think paid sick leave and annual leave is a good idea, motivates workers, etc., then why is there any need for government to mandate it?

    I understand the problem for a business when people decide, with no notice, to take a “sick day” to go hunting or shopping. But, people do get sick. And, if there is no paid sick leave, they may be tempted to come in to work while sick, thereby exposing fellow workers to flu, colds, etc.

    From the comments, it is interesting that the state seems to have leave policies that businesses could emulate. An employee gets a set number of sick leave days a year–no carrying over unused days from year to year. Then there is annual leave–the amount available based on seniority. Unused annual leave can be carried over, but only up to a point. The number of hours that can be carried over is based on seniority. I lost a lot of annual leave hours. When one leaves or retires, sick leave cannot be cashed out but unused annual leave can, but, again up to a maximum amount. That results in folks setting a departure date and then taking annual leave before that departure date. My retirement date was January 1. My last day in the office was December 3, but I was on the state payroll until January 1.

    1. Steve Haner Avatar
      Steve Haner

      Yes, working for the guvmint, life is goooooood. It ain’t the real world, Dick, and in my experience people who work the government are clueless. I sentence you to 90 days in a human resources office and a serious exposure to real human nature….my time was with the AG and it was an amazing education. Learned the phrase “earn and burn,” for employees who always seemed to have zero time off in the bank. If a thunderstorm was threatening, the emails “can we go home early?” started about 2:30 p.m…..won’t talk about expenses….

      Yes, we TAXPAYERS provided a very nice setup for state workers, and trust me, they whined about it constantly….I’d get memos about how it was better in the private sector.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        That was not the case for many in DPB. There were many of us who lost annual leave because we had an unused leave balance over the maximum allowed to be carried over. There was a lot of overtime for which we did not earn credit, as well.

        Your sentence of 90 days in a human resources department would be a violation of the Eighth Amendment. That was one area I made a point to stay away from.

        1. Steve Haner Avatar
          Steve Haner

          Understand on the OT. The union will fix that in the years going forward. 🙂

  5. Stir Fry Martini Avatar
    Stir Fry Martini

    This article is boring. The only thing not boring about Virginia’s baseball diamond business was Zane Smith who sometimes “doubled” as Row-land Ors-able. Of course he might die soon because he played for the BraveS~ and this guy that i know (who knows absolutely zero about a secure home ) has a girlfriend who is going around trying to kill famous BraveS~ because….I don’t know….she needs to feel important i guess??? Anyway, no one is going to blow up the moon, not CIA guy number one, and not CIA guy number two. And China is NOT allowed up there. Sorry China. We don’t like you at the moom, we like Russia. 6:20-cv-70058-NKM-RSB

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead V

      Allow me to jazz this post up for you.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1CoIto3oI&feature=emb_logo

      1. Stir Fry Martini Avatar
        Stir Fry Martini

        Thank you.
        That didn’t make me cry….
        made me little homesick though.
        Earth is a drag

  6. who pays?
    Virginia is losing it’s top ranking for biz.

  7. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead V

    I like this solution. 1 extra week of paid vacation. I would respond well to that incentive. You know I retired from teaching with enough sick days to take off 2 years. I went 12 years in a row without missing a day. Most of my colleagues used those days right away and sometimes for the wrong reasons. I should have used them. The payout for unused sick leave was capped at 10 grand. I like the cutoff throw. But stealing home is often times easier and more fun.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhS8aj0tazQ

    1. Eric the Half a Troll Avatar
      Eric the Half a Troll

      Just so you know most of the private world does not payout for sick leave.

  8. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead V

    I like this solution. 1 extra week of paid vacation. I would respond well to that incentive. You know I retired from teaching with enough sick days to take off 2 years. I went 12 years in a row without missing a day. Most of my colleagues used those days right away and sometimes for the wrong reasons. I should have used them. The payout for unused sick leave was capped at 10 grand. I like the cutoff throw. But stealing home is often times easier and more fun.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhS8aj0tazQ

  9. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    I delivered a similar message in a news interview at noon. The advocates just want to mandate their vision and refuse to listen, learn or (heaven forbid) compromise. What could the people who actually run HR operations know about any of this? The word is arrogance.

  10. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    PTO. A lot of companies are going to it. Fortunately mine didn’t. But then, we had 3 types of leave; vacation, sick, and professional, and they accrued differently. Sick leave was cashed out with no more than 40 hours carried over on Jan 1.

    Of course, the sick leave was tied to our Short Term Disability insurance, so that may have been the reason they didn’t just simply go to PTO. The company policy was more than 3 sick days in a pay period required a doctor’s note. Again, that may have had something to do with the STD, or maybe the short term disability.

    Professional leave came with an account that provided 3 days per year and $1000, minimum, that could be used only for conferences or education. The money could be used for books and journals. This was owned by the company. The employee only had use of it, and yes, when I retired, it all went back to the company.

    1. “Again, that may have had something to do with the STD, or maybe the short term disability.”

      I see what you did there…

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        I can’t help it. I’m sick. Help me!

        1. Apparently you are. Does your wife know?

          1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
            Nancy_Naive

            Funny you should ask. She’s constantly saying she didn’t realize I was so twisted when we were dating.

            Whenever she feels compelled to apologize for me , often too, she says,”He wasn’t like this before we married.”

            I bite my lip.

  11. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    I am not sure what the point of this post is. One could make the point that, if a majority of businesses think paid sick leave and annual leave is a good idea, motivates workers, etc., then why is there any need for government to mandate it?

    I understand the problem for a business when people decide, with no notice, to take a “sick day” to go hunting or shopping. But, people do get sick. And, if there is no paid sick leave, they may be tempted to come in to work while sick, thereby exposing fellow workers to flu, colds, etc.

    From the comments, it is interesting that the state seems to have leave policies that businesses could emulate. An employee gets a set number of sick leave days a year–no carrying over unused days from year to year. Then there is annual leave–the amount available based on seniority. Unused annual leave can be carried over, but only up to a point. The number of hours that can be carried over is based on seniority. I lost a lot of annual leave hours. When one leaves or retires, sick leave cannot be cashed out but unused annual leave can, but, again up to a maximum amount. That results in folks setting a departure date and then taking annual leave before that departure date. My retirement date was January 1. My last day in the office was December 3, but I was on the state payroll until January 1.

    1. Steve Haner Avatar
      Steve Haner

      Yes, working for the guvmint, life is goooooood. It ain’t the real world, Dick, and in my experience people who work the government are clueless. I sentence you to 90 days in a human resources office and a serious exposure to real human nature….my time was with the AG and it was an amazing education. Learned the phrase “earn and burn,” for employees who always seemed to have zero time off in the bank. If a thunderstorm was threatening, the emails “can we go home early?” started about 2:30 p.m…..won’t talk about expenses….

      Yes, we TAXPAYERS provided a very nice setup for state workers, and trust me, they whined about it constantly….I’d get memos about how it was better in the private sector.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        That was not the case for many in DPB. There were many of us who lost annual leave because we had an unused leave balance over the maximum allowed to be carried over. There was a lot of overtime for which we did not earn credit, as well.

        Your sentence of 90 days in a human resources department would be a violation of the Eighth Amendment. That was one area I made a point to stay away from.

        1. Steve Haner Avatar
          Steve Haner

          Understand on the OT. The union will fix that in the years going forward. 🙂

  12. Stir Fry Martini Avatar
    Stir Fry Martini

    This article is boring. The only thing not boring about Virginia’s baseball diamond business was Zane Smith who sometimes “doubled” as Row-land Ors-able. Of course he might die soon because he played for the BraveS~ and this guy that i know (who knows absolutely zero about a secure home ) has a girlfriend who is going around trying to kill famous BraveS~ because….I don’t know….she needs to feel important i guess??? Anyway, no one is going to blow up the moon, not CIA guy number one, and not CIA guy number two. And China is NOT allowed up there. Sorry China. We don’t like you at the moom, we like Russia. 6:20-cv-70058-NKM-RSB

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead V

      Allow me to jazz this post up for you.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1CoIto3oI&feature=emb_logo

      1. Stir Fry Martini Avatar
        Stir Fry Martini

        Thank you.
        That didn’t make me cry….
        made me little homesick though.
        Earth is a drag

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