Oh, That Song of Solomon!
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39 responses to “Oh, That Song of Solomon!”
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As a parent, she can request the two books not be given to her child.
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Two different women filed complaints–one about the Bible and one about Valiant Ladies.
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My point is, maybe other parents don’t see it the same way. Just let the school know that they don’t want their kids reading the book.
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That’s too much sanity. Moms for Liberty wants to ensure every kid is as ignorant as theirs.
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I agree with you.
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That’s too much sanity. Moms for Liberty wants to ensure every kid is as ignorant as theirs.
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next will be the Koran…
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The Bible complainer…gonna guess…is some degree of Leftist. Her political contributions were all 2023 and basically for Democrats – I think the school board and the 2 “independent” supervisor donations were the D position, and the other donation was a D candidate.
Western Civ grew out of the Bible. Just your typical hacktivist wasting time. The gay porn stuff…seriously, grow a spine. How does it better society? If the librarian is buying it, stern warning time. If this continues, see ya. The library association has a seriously mentally ill Commie in charge at the national level.-
The policy does not say “gay porn.” It says “sexually explicit”.
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It is a groomer book. I call it gay porn, you can call it whatever you want. But it is only “educational” if it is intended to “teach” “how” to be gay. And that is what is going on.
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Have you read “Valiant Ladies”?
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No. Have you?
Have you read the Bible? I submit the Bible is the greatest book ever written. And I have read it. More than once. I think anybody in the West who wishes to be truly wise must read it, in Study Bible form to help make the connections. Society would be better. -
I have read the Bible. I have not read “Valiant Ladies”. Because I have not read it, I do not feel that I should be commenting on its merits.
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OK. I relied on the description – “a young adult fiction novel set in the 17th century and based around two queer Latinx teenage girls.” – and I think that was more than sufficient to form an opinion. If the librarian ordered this, the librarian should be fired. Not that hard.
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You need to ask? Try the “Ladies Side of the Laundry List”.
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Why don’t you read it and enlighten us will all the wisdom gained.
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I read the Ladies Side of the Laundry List years ago.
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No, I’m waiting, not very expectantly, for your review of Valiant Ladies. I’ll take DHS’s instead. Either one of you will do for an explanation of the literary and educational value. I’ll defend the Bible. Sound good? Will civilization survive if someone actually thinks the Bible belongs in an educational setting?
Oh…the horror!
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Quick Google search shows she’s definitely a hard-D. Not to judge a book by its cover (pun intended), but she looks like what the kids would call a “Karen.” Constant scowl. Likely the loudest and most self-important in her group of girlfriends. School admins probably roll their eyes when they see her walking in the door to yell at someone. Incredibly embarrassing for her poor kid(s). A walking stereotype.
Obviously she doesn’t care if the Bible is removed, she’s trying to “make a statement.”
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Purple hair?
Your D characterizations are probably right.
Please note that Hanover is one of the few jurisdictions where school boards are still appointed by the BOS rather than elected. There will not be donations to school board candidates of any party.
Your D characterizations are probably right.
Please note that Hanover is one of the few jurisdictions where school boards are still appointed by the BOS rather than elected. There will not be donations to school board candidates of any party.
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She donated to the group trying to get an elected School Board.
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Are you saying that Hanover parents or residents who are Democrats should not be allowed to file complaints about sexually explicit books in school libraries?
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Of course not, just noting that there are no donations to school board members in Hanover because they are appointed, not elected.
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“it would absolutely turn my child into a groomed, immoral, prostituting, violent, polygamist and/or rapist.”
Trump?
“it would absolutely turn my child into a groomed, immoral, prostituting, violent, polygamist and/or rapist.”
Trump?
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Hunter Biden
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That’s two. Pull the book.
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When most of us were growing up our parents controlled what we read and didn’t defer or delegate to the school system. This is the type of aberrant behavior that a polarized and overly permissive society promotes in my opinion.
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Or an overly restrictive, sexually repressive one. Truth will out.
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Sexually repressive? Perhaps you’ve never heard of onlyfans lol
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I asked ChatGPT to write a 200 word summary of the book Valiant Ladies.
Here’s the response …
“This content may violate our content policy. If you believe this to be in error, please submit your feedback — your input will aid our research in this area.”
Too racy for a large language model but OK for a second grader?
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AI is still in its infancy so 2nd grade stuff may be too adult for it. But don’t look away, it will grow up in the blink of an eye.
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It is characterized as a “young adult” novel. Therefore, it probably not be appropriate for a second grader, just on a reading level basis, if for no other reason.
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from Google’s Bard:
is Valiant Ladies about sex?
While Valiant Ladies doesn’t explicitly focus on sex, it does contain some mature themes and elements that might not be suitable for all audiences. Here’s a breakdown:
Sexual Content:
Kissing and attraction between two teenage girls: The main characters, Ana and Kiki, are confirmed lesbians and have romantic feelings for each other. This is expressed through kisses and affectionate gestures, but not in any graphic or explicit way.
Sex work is acknowledged and portrayed positively: Ana was raised in a brothel and the book doesn’t shy away from the realities of sex work. However, it doesn’t dwell on it or portray it in a sensationalized manner.
References to brothels and prostitution: These are mentioned as part of the historical setting and social context, but again, not in a detailed or explicit way.
Overall Tone:Mature themes: The book deals with violence, death, murder, and social injustice. There are also some scenes of drinking and gambling.
Historical context: The book is set in 17th-century Bolivia, where societal norms and attitudes towards women and sexuality were very different from today.
Recommendation:For Young Adults: While the book is marketed as young adult fiction, some of the mature themes and content might be more appropriate for older teens or above.
Consider the Audience: When deciding if the book is suitable for a specific audience, consider their age, maturity level, and personal preferences.
Additional Notes:The book has been praised for its strong female characters, its exploration of historical themes, and its positive portrayal of LGBTQ+ relationships.
If you’re unsure about the book’s content, you can always read reviews or check out content warnings before deciding if it’s right for you.-
Thanks.
One of the things that is consistently ignored by both sides whenever anyone suggests removing a book from school libraries is the age-appropriateness of the material in question.
Is Valiant Ladies on the shelves of Hanover’s elementary school libraries? I hope not, but if it is then I am in favor of having it removed from those libraries.
Is someone demanding that the book be removed from the libraries at the county’s high schools? If so, then I think they are going too far.
Middle school is where I have the most trepidation about “questionable” books such as Valiant Ladies. Some students are mature enough for the subject matter and some are not. I’m not sure what the best solution is. Perhaps the middle schools could have such books at their libraries, but only make them available to students with parental permission?
I oppose any school at any level making books such as Valiant Ladies part of their required reading in required classes.
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To be honest, I’m not sure why some books are in the school libraries as we know that some
people would not want them there. Others would but once everyone knows, it becomes an issue and controversy. It’s the challenge of public schooling. IN a private school, the decision and process would be very different but public schools have to work to find something acceptable to diverse views.Now, with respect to required reading. I agree. I think what the parents want their kids “exposed” to supersedes the teacher’s and so mandatory ability to opt-out or give the class 2 or 3 choices with all of them subject to parental approval.
Having said that, the world today is a far different place in terms of access to “books” and “content” and trying to keep kids away from something they want to read is a losing battle
as they get older and have more and more freedom to do as they wish.The parent has to know this and work with their kids on this. If they are not on the same page together, the kid is going to do what they want when they can anyhow, and that is way beyond
the school book issue or the idea that the parent somehow “owns” the kid and decides
what is best for the kid – no matter their age. Kids run away from home all the time when
the parent asserts more control that the kid can live with.
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Books, schmooks!
The future is past…
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