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19 responses to “No! We Want to Spend the Money!”

  1. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    My take will be up in a while. Spent yesterday looking at all this. The House will debate its amendments “on the floor” (HA!) in the Zoom Abomination at noon. Some interesting floor amendments are expected, too.

  2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    Sing along… house and senate debates

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CofN4q_qv0o

    1. Steve Haner Avatar
      Steve Haner

      Had to watch it again. Anything Fosse, I cannot resist. Don’t say it….

      But again, the GA is proving Haner’s First Law of Gov’t Finance. They have spent an absurd amount of time and energy on a minor set of amendments, and are far from done.

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        Saw it in the theatre and was hooked.. of course, I like Broadway… worked in a couple of musicals at a long defunct dinner-theatre… you don’t say it.

        It is the nature of work. One will alot 90% of their time to the most interesting 10% of the job and slapdash the rest.

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    I always know when I see Dick’s tagline that the article is not going to be some ideological rant about something. Thank you!

    re: ” In this instance, is it clear that Governor Northam has ceded much of his power over the budget to the legislature by calling a special session.”

    Maybe I missed it or don’t really understand but how does this differ from a regular session? Can’t the legislators just jump start the budget in regular sessions also?

    I know the opposing party usually produces their priorities.

    In this case, is it because the Dem legislators are choosing not to defer to the Gov on budget?

    I find this a little suprising given the fact that Aubrey Layne has been credited with a steady and a conservative hand on the budget.

    Did Northam just abdicate his role?

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      You are right–the legislators can and do make changes to the budget in regular session. But, they don’t have much time or the staff that the Governor has in developing a budget. Being able to propose the budget means being able to frame the discussion. I always meant to try to determine how much of a governor’s proposed budget survived, but never took the time to do so. It is generally thought that over 90% of the budget proposals of a governor are accepted by the legislature.

      As far as Layne is concerned, experienced budget watchers I talk to are not impressed. He may be a good accountant, but he is not a budget person. There is a big difference. A budget person has vision, for one thing.

  4. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead V

    Mr. Dick can Governor Northam use his line item veto power to arm wrestle the budget back to his fiscal position?

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Yes, he still has the line item veto, but it is doubtful he would use it on amendments from his own party.

  5. “the Senate has an amendment related to the development of a โ€œlinear parkโ€ in the Shenandoah Valley.”

    Isn’t there already a “linear park” in the Shenandoah Valley?

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      I-81 is a linear park… ing lot.

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      There is the New River Trail Park that in the Galax-Pulaski area. It utilizes the same idea behind the Shenandoah Valley proposal–an abandoned railroad bed.

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    “linear parks” are often abandoned rail beds or rivers, etc. They’re really all over the place.

    Here’s High Bridge Trail State Park:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ERCR-i2Xq90/maxresdefault.jpg

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      The point of my comment was not to criticize state parks of any kind–I am a big fan. My point was that, theoretically, a special session called to deal with budget shortfalls would be limited in its reach. This one is not.

    2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Then I-81 almost qualifies. Not abandoned but certainly neglected.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        not entirely,and of course the much maligned Governor was involved:

        ” The CTB approved the I-81 Corridor Improvement Plan on Dec. 5, 2018 and the study’s findings were reported to the General Assembly. The study identified a $2 billion package of projects for the corridor.

        During the 2019 General Assembly, two bills were introduced regarding the Interstate 81 Corridor Improvement Plan, Senate Bill 1716 and House Bill 2718. The bills did not identify dedicated revenue sources for funding the project package. On March 28, 2019, Governor Northam announced amendments to the bills, which would provide for dedicated funding sources for projects identified as priorities. The amendments were passed by the General Assembly and signed by Governor Northam on April 3, 2019, now establishing the 2019 Acts of Assembly 846.”

        1. idiocracy Avatar

          Lovely. It’s now September 29, 2020 and I-81 is just as neglected as it was when the bill was signed.

  7. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    My post (now up) reflects the partisan commentary Larry craves, at least a bit. I also spotted the plethora of off-topic goodies funded, mostly by the Senate. Usually I prefer the Senate product but not this time.

    I don’t see the Gov being displeased with this outcome. It stays within the revenue outline proposed. They didn’t whack the stuff he asked for.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Oh I think if you wrote more like Dick, I’d love it to death! ๐Ÿ˜‰

      not you, mind you! ๐Ÿ˜‰

      1. Steve Haner Avatar
        Steve Haner

        Mine was pretty tame. Just got a nice attaboy back from a Democratic legislator on the version emailed out by TJIPP….It’s dry stuff now matter how you package it.

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