Med Student Sues EVMS on Free Speech Grounds


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16 responses to “Med Student Sues EVMS on Free Speech Grounds”

  1. Steve Gillispie Avatar
    Steve Gillispie

    The Liberals have a nice racket going. Censor or prohibit anything which might provide a different point of view to their dogma.

    They’ve been quite successful with Google, Twitter, YouTube, CNN,MSNBC,NBC et al and virtually the entire academic administration and professoriate in lockset to control all discussion.

    It will be interesting to see how the Courts respond. Their record is not good on supporting constitutional rights.

    Please post the outcome of this suit.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      I’m confused. Isn’t Si adhering to liberal dogma by agitating for single payer?

      It seems more likely to me that the student council (composed of future physicians) has no interest in nationalized healthcare.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I had the same reaction. Both “choice” (abortion) and nationalized health care are traditional liberal policies. The reasoning for turning this down is nonsensical. I wonder if there are some personality clashes at the bottom of this dispute.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          “The Student Government Association denied the club’s application …”

          It wasn’t the faculty or administration who turned it down. It was the students. Future doctors. They don’t care a bit about abortion. They do care about lower compensation for doctors.

          Doctors in England make an average of $89,572. The lowest paid doctors in the US are pediatricians who average $221,000 per year.

          Anyway, that’s my guess. Medical students are liberal until being liberal impacts their wallets.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            We’re not in England. Nor, would single payer be the same as government owned. Finally, ask doctors working for the VA, which is government owned, if their compensation sucks. Hint: it doesn’t.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Finally, ask doctors working for the VA, which is government owned, if their compensation sucks. Hint: it doesn’t.”

            The Military and the VA don’t attract the best practitioners. They are also tiered pay which Staff Physicians make between $108k -$243k.

            The National Average for Physicians is ~$203k.

  2. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    On the merits, I hope he fails miserably. I like my health care and insurance coverage. Many people do. Leave us alone.

    But once again, the government is discriminating based on the content of the speech. That is wrong constitutionally and very scary.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      The most misinformed people on Obamacare I met in 2010-2012 period were doctors.

      1. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        I don’t understand your comment.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          I’m in favor of his group on the merits too. Perhaps some information will transfer by accident too.

          1. tmtfairfax Avatar
            tmtfairfax

            Point noted. When many financial advisors recommend to federal employees that they simply keep their health care plan after they retire and not add Medicare B, why should those employees and their significant others fight to keep the status quo? My wife worked for around 40 years for the federal government, earning her benefits. Why should they be taken away absent a financial collapse of the federal government?

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    I wonder if he’s been in touch with the ACLU?

    1. FIRE is probably the best organization for him to have contacted. They concentrate exclusively on civil liberties issues at educational institutions. The ACLU has a much more broad scope.

  4. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Good luck to Edward. It is inspiring to see young adults make a stand for our unalienable rights.

  5. Jerry Vandesic Avatar
    Jerry Vandesic

    “Either it refuses to fund any group that, as an organization, advocates a political point of view …”

    That’s pretty sketchy too. Only allowing non-political POV’s is not being content neutral.

  6. Update from FIRE today: EVMS approved Si’s club application the day after the lawsuit was filed. But FIRE is not finished. Says FIRE Litigation Follow Jeff Zeman: “Until EVMS changes the unconstitutional policies that allow the student government to deny clubs recognition because of their beliefs, this lawsuit will continue.”

    https://www.thefire.org/one-day-after-fire-files-lawsuit-med-school-approves-students-long-denied-club-application/

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