It Could Be Worse

As the General Assembly convenes next month with the pressing objective of balancing the budget, one of the things our parliamentarians should be thinking about is the commonwealth’s $3.6 billion unfunded liability for its employees’ post-retirement benefits. That figure comes from a November report published by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

Outgoing Gov. Tim Kaine has proposed increasing the contributions of teachers and state employees into the pension system. (See my previous coverage, “On a Slippery Slope: The State Pension Fund.”) With all the other painful decisions that need to be made, will our new governor and legislators have the stomach to enact that reform, or even some other? I don’t know. But we can consider their action or non-action as a good bell-weather for their determination to maintain the state’s AAA bond rating.

It may come as some consolation to know that many other states have it worse. Our neighbor and economic competitor to the south, North Carolina, has an unfunded liability of $28.7 billion — eight times larger. Our friends to the north, Maryland, have a $14.7 billion liability.

Or, if you want to consider someone who’s really in a world of hurt, take a look at New Jersey ($50.6 billion liability), New York ($50.8 billion) or California ($62 billion). The powerful public employee unions are pushing those states straight toward bankruptcy. It will be interesting to see which state defaults first, and how many years off that default is. Anyone want to make odds?


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9 responses to “It Could Be Worse”

  1. I was just curious why the US Government is poking it's nose into Virginia's pension plans?

    Does Jim Bacon support this outrageous interference from the feds?

    Should it be up to Va to hid this info from it's citizens if it chooses to?

  2. James A. Bacon Avatar
    James A. Bacon

    Larry, One of the few legitimate functions of the federal government, in my mind, is collecting and providing social, demographic, financial and economic information — all in the cause of greater transparency.

    Along that line, one of the few measures in the Obama abomination called health care "reform" that I support is a measure to collect and disseminate health care metrics that will enable medical providers to identify best practices. Too bad they can't carve out that one useful measure and ditch all the rest!

  3. re: what the feds can do that IS useful

    well.. all of these things that we _could_… shoulda/coulda done with health care INSTEAD of what we are planning on doing…

    I always wondered why when the limited-govt folks were in charge – they did not implement.

    the example you cite – is a good example…

    why didn't the limited govt folks do this and stuff like this when they were in office – almost as a prophylactic measure?

    If they had done many of those things – many folks who now reluctantly agree that we need to do some things.. they could instead be saying "we've already done the fixes needed and now we're talking about fixing something that is not broke".

    right?

    In other words, we did have ample opportunity to accomplish a limited-govt approach to some of the problems.

    Another example: how hard should it have been for the limited-govt folks to pass a law making it easier for insurance companies to offer nationwide plans instead of state-only plans?

    and now that we actually have that enshrined in the current legislation – we ignore it – and harp about what we don't like ….

    go figure.

    when they were in charge, they did nothing at all, even reasonable things.. and now that they are not.. nothing is right.. the whole thing is wrong.

    and.. they want us to put them back in charge…

    fool-me-once?

  4. Gooze Views Avatar
    Gooze Views

    JAB,
    Are "powerful public employees unions' pushing California to bankruptcy.
    Gee, aren't we limiting the blame. How about all those "Propositions" pushed by the right wing Orange County crowd that limit the state's ability to tap needed tax revenues.

    Peter Galuszka

  5. There will never be a default on a state pension plan. If AIG is "too big to fail" then Calfornia is "too big to fail". Obama knows how to solve this problem – print more money. By the time the full economic catastrophe of the Obama Administration is known the only people who will be solvent will be government employees and retirees.

  6. Anonymous Avatar

    Didn't California already default?

    Speaking of which, anyone pick up on the stories aboutnet migration this week? California has gone from the top in net in migration, to he bottom, with the highest net out migration in ten years.

    Which may be made up for by the high Latino birth rate.

    RH

  7. Anonymous Avatar

    Along that line, one of the few measures in the Obama abomination called health care "reform" that I support is a measure to collect and disseminate health care metrics that will enable medical providers to identify best practices.

    ———————————-

    Yep, we need the same kind of measurements to ensure that best practises are met in our environmental expenditurs, too. While we are at it we can put land use practices on the same list.

    I'm surprised the Dems did;t nap up the (surprisingly) Republican proposal to allow insurors to sell across state lines. It seems we sould save a lot of money if every inuror didn't have to operate 50 shadow companies in order to sell in the various states.

    Likewise the move to allow health care co-ops. It would be a natural addition to the business of Farm Credit for example.

    Maybe the Republicans can still get these in if they decide to give a little someplace else.

    RH

  8. Anonymous Avatar

    BIG AS Calpers is, I think it pales in comparion to the size of AIG. Anyone know?

    RH

  9. Gooze Views Avatar
    Gooze Views

    RH,
    AIG is bigger. It lost something like $99 billion in 2008. CalPers lost a total of $60 plus billion frm 2007 to now. CalPers is probably the largest public pension fund. Like many investment groups, it bought a lot of subprime loans in CA and elsewhere.

    Peter Galuszka

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