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>>The detention center has long been the focus of periodic protests but President Donald Trump’s in-your-face stances against foreigners >>
Peter,
Really? You think his stance is against ALL foreigners, because that’s certainly implied in your post. We need less disingenuous discussion about this stuff. How about a little bit more nuance? Your post reads like what Hannity complains about from the left: always with the Xenaphobic, homophobic, environmental polluting Republicans narrative. Why do you play into his hands? The man is not very bright and can easily defeat himself. The lady you on the left have to worry about is Liz Wheeler. -
Peter, is there a difference between illegal and legal immigration? Does a sovereign nation have a right to control its borders? How come the MSM never draws a distinction between legal and illegal immigration? Do you think that, in the absence of illegal immigration, businesses would likely have to pay higher wages to U.S. citizens and lawful immigrants? Do you think that’s a bad idea? Do you think it’s fair to the millions of people in this nation who have followed the immigration laws to ignore them for people who didn’t follow them? If businesses can refuse to comply with the immigration laws, can they also decide not to follow other labor laws (say OSHA, Wage & Hour)?
What’s the difference in honesty between Joseph Goebbels & his sickening crowd and the MSM? Both have distorted facts and language for political gain. I’d love to question any member of the MSM live on the Internet or on their media shows.
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True: Trump is anti-illegal immigrant. False: Trump is anti-immigrant. The Left routinely conflates legal immigrants with illegal immigrants to scare the legal immigrants into the Democratic camp.
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Peter, is there any evidence of mistreatment of the inmates of the Farmville detention center that can be traced to the for-profit status of ICA? If not, what does ICA’s for-profit status have to do with anything?
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https://mavnicenter.com/assets/uploads/files/1545845069818-bcm-1612-02.pdf
Well, the Trump administration is still standing in front of this pathway, for one. There is alot of noise out there and the MSM has blown most of its credibility, but it seems like the animosity is toward immigration period, for cheap political gain. As for Peter’s attack on this facility, and its operators, he does at least admit the policy goes back to Obama, and bottom line is either we enforce the law or we don’t. Many on the left make no bones – don’t enforce it at all, let ’em all in.
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re: ” Many on the left make no bones – don’t enforce it at all, let ’em all in.”
Nope. That’s simply not true. SOME of the FAR LEFT may think that – but it’s NOT representative of many on the left – who do NOT want the dreamers deported and who do not want the families of the dreamers deported without some path to citizenship.
Thats a far cry from “let them all in” but it seems to be the rallying cry of those who basically opposed any policy to deal with the dreamers.
Let’s be honest about it.
Very few on the left actually have a “let them all in” attitude but the folks on the right -give that as THEIR excuse as to why they have no proposals other than “deport them all”.
How about it? Give me the moderate right proposal on immigration. What is it?
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Yes, Larry, let’s look at the facts. At one of the Democratic presidential candidates debates, Julian Castro argued for repeal of Section 1325 of Title 8 of the United States Code, which says it’s a federal crime to enter the country without authorization. Seven of the ten candidates for president, including Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, and Pete Buttigieg indicated that they supported repeal. Moreover, all of them stated that they supported giving health insurance to illegal immigrants. The Democratic Party is so radical that my grandfather who never voted for a Republican in his life and ranted about Herbert Hoover’s policies the rest of his life would be pulling the lever for Trump in 2020.
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re: Obama did it too. Nice try but not true. Obama would NOT deport the dreamers while the GOP and Trump have been less than clear about that.
IF the GOP and/or Trump said that we are NOT going to deport the dreamers but we ARE going to deport any/all undocumented that are guilty of crimes – as a priority – AND then proposed some specific policy about the others – instead of the perception that any undocumented, even dreamers will be deported…
then we have a problem because some folks want to deport any/all of them and that’s simply not going to fly with most Americans.
We can disagree – we DO disagree – but we have to find a path that we can live with – as opposed to what we are doing right now which is throwing bombs at each others.
You can join the “blame the other side and let’s throw bombs” folks are you can can try to find a reasonable solution to support.
Right now – it’s an all or nothing proposition with the GOP and TRUMP.
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Jim,
I do not know about the record of how ICA treats its inmates. ICE has not responded to my email yesterday. The only way to really find out would be to FOIA ICE documents but I don’t have the time or resources for that. It could be a job for some of the new journalism non-profits like Virginia Mercury, Vadogwood or the Virginia Center for Investigative Journalism.
Larry, you are right that Obama had a better idea on immigration but then, so did George W. who pushed a comprehensive reform bill. It was flawed but still a step in the right direction. I did want to point out that Obama was no slouch when it came to tough measures on immigration, despite what the Trump-infused right-wing echo chamber would have you believe.
Immigration reform is very complicated since most illegals overstay visas. Adjudicating cases can take years. Ask me, I helped Americans and Russians get visas when I was in Moscow. For a foreigner, getting a visa can mean whether a U.S. Consul likes your looks. Trump has provided ZERO guidance other than racist insults and the Wall which will do very little to solve the problem since few illegals come that way.-
Peter – you are certainly correct about overstaying one’s visa. And we need strong enforcement and a rapid process to address those cases. There should be no need to probe beyond whether X had a visa and whether he/she overstayed it. If X has other reasons why she/he believes there’s eligibility to remain in the United States, that should be raised separately by the individual. It should not be a defense to overstaying one’s visa.
And we need to make E-Verify mandatory for all but the very smallest employers and impose draconian penalties for violations. Indeed, I heard a proposal that would restrict the deductibility of employee and contractor compensation for federal income tax purposes for any covered employer that does not have 100% compliance.
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