Fighting to Save Women’s Sports

Roanoke College women’s swim team. Photo credit: Scott Dreyer

by Scott Dreyer

The women’s swim team at Roanoke College made national headlines October 5, 2023 when as a group they stood together to insist they only compete against other biological women. They told their stories in a press conference at the Hotel Roanoke. Their accounts are summarized in Parts OneTwoThree, and Four.

Instead of lauding them for their stance, however, three male Democrats on Roanoke City Council blasted the women. Showing they had not even heard the women yet, the three co-signed a letter, also dated October 5, but actually released before the women had spoken. Moreover, none of the three attended the press conference. Showing their displeasure, their letter was entitled “Hate Has No Place in Roanoke, Virginia,” implying that all the women swimmers plus their families and allies are haters. One of the three, Joe Cobb, is currently vice mayor of Roanoke and is running to be mayor.

This saga may seem to be a modern-day rendition of Jesus’ words, “a prophet is without honor in his hometown.” In contrast to the animosity and hostility from Cobb and some other Roanoke City politicians, the lady swimmers are gaining a following that reaches across the continent.

As evidence of this, the Roanoke College lady swimmers were recently lauded in Reno, Nevada, 2,166 miles away from the Star City.

In her opening remarks at a rally in Reno on October 26, Riley Gaines, 12x All American Swim Champion, credited the Roanoke College swimmers as role models for their courage while she defended the University of Nevada-Reno (UNR) women’s volleyball team.

This is the second time now that I have been able to stand in unity really with full team, like we’re going to see today. We saw this at Roanoke College with their swim team there, so shout out to those girls for being so brave [applause]. But understand what you’re going to see today is rare, the type of unity being able to link arms in the way that they have. And understandably so. You’ll hear the tactics that their university has used, the institution has used to keep them quiet, to keep them fearful, to stifle their voices, but nonetheless they stand in unity, which I believe deserves to be applauded [applause].

UNR women’s volleyball team makes national headlines

The UNR women’s volleyball team was scheduled to play against California’s San Jose State University (SJSU) on October 26. However, the UNR ladies took a vote among their players and chose to forfeit the match against SJSU because of a biological male, Blaire Fleming, who would be on the women’s team.

Notably, the Nevada athletic department on October 3 insisted their team would play the match. However, the administration had not checked with the players before making that claim.

The players then released this statement, which they made to Outkick:

We, the University of Nevada Reno women’s volleyball team, forfeit against San Jose State University and stand united in solidarity with the volleyball teams of Southern Utah University, Boise State University, the University of Wyoming, and Utah State University. We demand that our right to safety and fair competition on the court be upheld. We refuse to participate in any match that advances injustice against female athletes.

–Scott Dreyer

Sources: Riley Gaines speaks at ICONS press conference, Reno, Nevada, Oct. 26.

Nevada Players Vote to Forfeit Against SJSU

Roanoke resident Scott Dreyer leads a team of educators teaching English and ESL to a global audience. This article is republished with permission from The Roanoke Star.

 


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32 responses to “Fighting to Save Women’s Sports”

  1. A group of really good men basketball players should enroll in a small Division 1 school and go out for the women's basketball team. They could win the women's Final Four and end this madness.

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      You don't even need that. Back when UVA Women were highly ranked (Debbie Ryan era), I was playing pick up basketball in Mem Gym. The Women's team called "winners" (two teams would play and the wait list went on to play the winner of the current teams playing. Winners kept playing until they weren't) and I was on the team that got to play the women. Basically, all action in Mem Gym stopped to watch the battle of the sexes. I would guess my "team" was 3 pretty good high school players and me and one other who just liked to play pick up. We won about 15-9. And it was the first time I ever had an elbow thrown at me. Those chicks play rough! (Probably Geno Auriemma taught that, he was one of Ryan's assistants at one time.)

    2. Itโ€™s almost like thereโ€™s requirements to participate as a trans athlete, and that this kind of scheme would be outed as inauthentic almost immediately.

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        But what if they satisfied all of the requirements? Wouldn't it be discriminatory to bar a transgender woman from a basketball team solely because there were other transgender women on the team? Is there an existing rule that limits the number of transgender women on any sports team?

  2. BRAVO to ALL the REAL women standing in solidarity for true equality and science!!

    1. Not Today Avatar

      You do realize that EQUALITY would be everyone competing on the same field without regard to race, gender, sex, or income, yes? What I think you mean to say is that you value EQUITY, where women and girls assigned female at birth and/or people lacking a Y chromosome, are allowed to be successful in their own way by being the only ones allowed to compete in women and girls' sports.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        Equality is everyone being allowed to play. Title IX required that women, although of different physical abilities than men, be enabled to play with the same resources as men.

        Equity would be that all outcomes were the same regardless of race, sex, ability, income etc. There is no equity in sports. Some competitors are more able than others and all teams do not have the same outcomes – wins vs losses.

  3. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Real world.
    There are TWO SEXes (not gender – it's OK to say "sex" – and though Lefties won't believe it from me, it is even OK to have sex, just Lefties want to pervert that, too).
    For the so-called party of "SCIENCE" nothing disqualifies them more from any of their proclamations (I think mostly of "climate change" and the EV push) than their falling in line for this impossibility.
    Youngkin would never put me in as a counselor or as a BOV member, but I think he should have sent out a questionnaire to every BOV member with one question – "How many sexes are there?"
    If anyone answered anything other than "two," he would then remove them, citing that answer. As to those BOV members being smart enough to know that they had to say "two" to stay on, it would work to make them useless to the crazed Left for the betrayal of giving the right answer. A true win-win.

  4. Not Today Avatar

    In the real world this is a concern (albeit a minor one) for REAL women but a BIG, HUGE issue for insecure men who feel the need to 'protect' women 'whether the women like it or not'.

  5. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Over forty years ago, the NYT published a LTE from me following a $$$$ sports scandal in college sports in Georgia. Today, college athletes are no longer amateurs and the rah-rah for them persists largely from alumni and the institutions as a fund raising function.

    My suggestion was to create separate organizations to allow the athletes to be compensated and not have any demand – other than personal ambition – to seek a diploma. Time for a new world in "amateur" athletics, college sports in particular.

    With all formally professionalized, no need to be concerned about men v women. That issue would remain for gambling enterprises.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      As far as I know, we're the only c0untry in the world that mixes sports with academics in higher ed.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        The mix has not, IMO, been for the better. It may have been rah-rah-sis-boom-bah in its early days but "amateur" college athletics no longer reflects the innocent and enjoyable purposes originally intended. The men v women presents an opportunity for some to engage in juvenile debate over gender, politics, and nonsense. Pay them, one and all and let the competition sort it out. That seems to me to be the ideal conservative resolution, unlimited free market.

        1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          Shouldn't the questions be: Does intercollegiate athletics benefit the institution and its students? It generally provides emotional benefits (assuming your school wins once and a while) to students and alumni. Do revenue and alumni donations exceed the costs of running the programs? Do student athletes obtain a better education than they would if post-high school sports were operated separately from colleges and universities? If most student-athletes get some level of education that they may well not receive if post-high school sports were separated from colleges and universities, there may be some benefit to them keeping the status quo.

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Not necessarily b/c the alternate question is whether organized athletic programs truly benefit the participants toward the desired and stated objectives. The billions of $$$$ generated might better be allocated to core educational objectives as many experience inability to attend higher education. The UVa athletic expense budget is reported at $97 million. What, in fact, is the cost benefit for sustaining college (not student) athletes versus all others? Higher education athletics cannot exist without the high school โ€œfarmโ€ system also profit driven. Is the possible marginal contribution by athletic programs to the emotional health of some students and some alumni essential?

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    Intramural has always been a legitimate part of College. Big time “amateur” sports was always bogus in a way , perks out the wazoo for some players , not to mention getting them a college education when some were in no way qualified to attend academically. We even called Sports – “merit”! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Thereโ€™s no problem for volunteer intramural college sports. The corruption of amateur sports has trickled down to high schools producing a vast, profit-driven network of recruiters, bogus academies, etc., dedicated to the glory of athletic โ€œcompetition.โ€

      I suspect sports meritocracy does not enter the radar screen of some critics of UVa.

      1. Not Today Avatar

        I see this more in the the big sports tho, not all. Minor sports are being weaponized in service of an agenda for sure.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        for-profit sports (starting even PRIOR to High school), DOES offer a path for some people to financial success, for a very few lucky few compared to the vast majority that fall off to the wayside. It’s potential is similar to becoming an entertainer (of which “sports” has actually become). It actually encourages and incentivizes naรฏve young people to abandon academics and gamble on a career like sports or entertainment that does not require academic “prowess” or “meritocracy”.

        Which makes it’s connection to College “Sports” (vice college academics) truly perverse and ironic.

        Kids as early as 4th grade, eschew academics to admire and emulate sports and music and other “entertainers” who prioritized that path over academics.

        More irony today, as folks who, apparently never really liked academics, have grown up, now reject science and scientific institutions and instead put their faith and trust in internet bloggers and the like.

  7. 'assigned' — that's funny….
    equality within the league [i.e. it's called Women's Volleyball]

    1. Not Today Avatar

      Accuracy matters. Do children with XXY chromosomes pick their own gender/sex at birth? What would YOU assign? Was your gender/sex assumed based on gonad appearance or genetics? I notice you didn't address the substance of my post either. You support EQUITY, no? Giving women and girls the space to succeed in segregated sports endeavors based on the gender/sex assigned at birth? FTR–I AGREE!

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        XXY is Klinefelter Syndrome, they still have all the same parts are other males.

    2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      It suggests that there is a low-level bureaucrat at every maternity ward who arbitrary decides to add a pink or blue sticker to a baby's toe. What happened to the "respect science" crowd?

      1. Not Today Avatar

        I certainly respect the science and acknowledge that those low-level staffers are not doing a genetic analysis but making their gender assignment based on the outward appearance of gonads. Do you acknowledge as much? For some reason, people have a hard time with that factual statement.

  8. Not Today Avatar

    'Innocent', libertarian, and also IMO, wrong. My father played D1 football in the pay for play late 60s. NIL is an improvement. The 'good old days' were never good for exploited athletes, just naive consumers/viewers. The current system offers no protection for women and girls' sports either. I simply don't trust those currently raising the issue to have the best interests of the athletes involved in mind.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      IMO, the onlookers and those who profit from sports enterprises are merely feeding a vicarious desire to be muscular or manly. Agreed that NIL recognizes a facet of the corruption.

      1. Not Today Avatar

        FACTS. In the current vernacular, 'betas' cosplaying 'alfas' via keyboard dominate this discussion. True 'alfas' seek their like and value their skills/talents. No one on the vanguard of this issue is in any way appealing to female athletes of any persuasion.

  9. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Respectfully, historically, and by legal tradition equity does not mean equal outcomes, only that contests are fair for participants. Thatโ€™s equity in sports and in most other competitions.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar

      Wrong again. What you have described is equality, and that is what we all want. Equity wants equal outcomes regardless of ability. Your attempt to falsely redefine equity into equality is sad, futile and transparent.

      Equality in sports is that those with the most ability prevail, not because of the color of their skin as racist equity proposes.

  10. LarrytheG Avatar

    It's way more than "intercollegiate athletics" though. The fundamental purpose of college/higher Ed is learning and academics not big time sports and dollars, TV , now pay for athletes, etc. Totally corrupting of the fundamental purpose of College, not done in the rest of the world and not done even in the US at some world-class Colleges.

    The "scholarships" for some of the athletes is a joke in terms of it's value to them later for the vast majority of them who end their sports careers in college and go back into the real world to try to make a living.

    If we had truly amateur athletics the way it started out, it would be okay.

    What we have today is basically part of Pro Football and almost nothing to do with academics other than the name.

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      I tend to agree.

  11. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    A person's gender is established well before birth. Are there people who have something other than the typical XX or XY gene? Are there people who have severe emotional issues with their gender despite having XX or XY gene? Yes, to both. And they should be treated with respect and compassion. But human beings don't get to choose their gender any more than they can choose their parents.

    When my brother was young, he went through a stage where he wanted to be a dog. Seems to me to be just as valid and realistic choice.

    If an adult wants to live as a member of the opposite gender or even have surgery to alter his/her genitals, I don't care. If an adult wants to live as a dog, I don't care. But that doesn't change the underlying biology.

  12. I can't find the link right now, however, earlier this week I was reading an article from Michigan. A reporter was tired of hearing this horseshit about trans boys taking over girls' sports, so, she checked with the Michigan High School Athletic Association.

    This is what she found:
    — Number of trans boys playing in girls' sports in ALL of Michigan: Two.
    — Number of girls (not trans, born that way) playing in boys' sports: Over 400. 187 alone playing football.

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