
DOE Response to Average Teacher Salary Issues
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15 responses to “DOE Response to Average Teacher Salary Issues”
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That’s why I suggested you contact the counties directly. It’s been my experience, if I want an answer on a discrepancy, I had to go to the superintendent’s office. Not that it’s right, but it’s how it is. And even then, there’s no guarantee they’ll have the right answer!
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I was not interested so much in the average salary for those specific counties. I needed to know the statewide average teacher salary. Knowing the correct number for Henrico or Greensville would not have helped in that regard. I pointed them out as examples of why I could not trust the statewide average teacher salary set out in the report.
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Increase the tax rebate, reduce state taxes.
The best way to put out a dumpster fire is to starve it of fuel.
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Excellent work, Dick. If the GA requires the DOE to issue this report, its DOE’s responsibility to ensure its accuracy.
If I’m not mistaken, as part of their audits of state agencies APA ensures that required reports are at least submitted to the GA. You might want to let them know about this.
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It was submitted, so the APA will check that box.
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Attaway, Dick, turn up the heat on the bureaucracy!
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Attaway, Dick, turn up the heat on the bureaucracy!
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“Not my yob!”
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Anyone who has ever worked in a large organization should be able to recognize that the report is something that is required by law or regulation but that no one cares about or every uses for anything. Thus, it is assembled by low level staffers and forwarded to be filed away and forgotten.
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Did you get the memo about the new TPS report cover sheet?
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Have you seen my red stapler lately?
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“….a reasonable expectation that those reports are accurate. Otherwise, public policy will be developed in a vacuum or under faulty assumptions.” Sorry, my side is splitting with laughter. If they wanted accurate data, they would outline the parameters, give instructions on whether they wanted salary alone, salary + benefits, and if so which benefits. The W-2 income, gross salary, is in everybody’s accounting software and running report on that could not be easier. Range, median and mean in one swoop, by job class. This particular bureaucratic establishment has long thrived on obscurity and confusion — which is why “national average teacher salary” is another way to get a laugh out of me.
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I have to wonder, what other data from the VDOE is faulty? Calling Glenn Y. Are you receiving? Taxpayers fork over an arm, a leg, and hoof for education. We want the real data!
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“You can’t handle the truth.” To borrow a phrase. 🙂
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I imagine that the only way to ensure 100% accuracy is with a unified state data system that ties finance, student information systems and everything else together. Then the state report can pull directly from the point of truth without any human interaction necessary at the division level.
Currently, there are multiple folks in 131 public school divisions that are expending many hours compiling and submitting state reports. Folks do the best they have with what they have to work with, but there are lots of opportunities for things to go awry. There is human error in entering or calculating data. There is error introduced when trying to interpret state directions for submitting data.
There are so many differences among divisions, and so few employees at VDOE, that it is unreasonable for every possible anomaly in the data to be verified. The folks at VDOE don’t have access to the raw data, they have to rely on the folks in the divisions who do. As we have seem many times, this process does not yield 100% reliable data, nor does it have the capacity to do so.

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