Dems Won in Virginia, But GOP Narrowed the Gap

Map credit: Virginia Public Access Project

by James A. Bacon

Virginia looks like a red state if you look at voting results displayed on a map like the one above, but it’s still a blue state where it counts, which is in the cities and suburbs where the votes are. Democrat Party strength in urban cores and inner suburbs swamped Republican strength in small towns and rural areas. Virginia voted to elect Kamala Harris as president, return incumbent Tim Kaine to the U.S. Senate, and give six of eleven congressional districts to Democrat Party candidates.

You can read the top-line national election results almost anywhere, so I won’t tarry with them here. I’m more interested in documenting what I see as the evolving balance of power of the two major political parties in the state. The GOP is still in the game.

Comparing the 2024 election results (as of Wednesday morning with 99%+ of precincts reporting, according to the Virginia Public Access Project), we note the following:

  • Donald Trump didn’t win quite as many votes in Virginia in 2024 as in 2020 — 1,949,000 compared to 1,963,000. But Kamala Harris saw her vote total compared to Biden’s erode even more — 2,302,000 compared to 2,412,000. The Democratic Party margin of victory slipped from about 10% to about 5%;
  • Democrat Tim Kaine’s margin of victory over Republican challenger Hung Cao shrank compared to Democrat Senator Mark Warner’s margin over his challenger Daniel Gade — 353,000 votes versus 532,000;
  • Adding up the votes for Ds and Rs in the eleven house districts, Democrats garnered more votes but Republican Party candidates chipped away at the Dem advantage. Comparisons between 2024 and 2020 get tricky because 9th district Congressman Morgan Griffith faced no competition four years ago, so the vote total for Democrats in that district was 0. Excluding the results for the 9th, the Democrat Party advantage contracted from 542,000 votes to 311,000. Given the fact that Griffith racked up a 179,000-vote lead this time around, the overall gap this year was smaller than those numbers indicate. All told, Dem candidates scored 51.6% of the vote in 2024 (excluding minor party candidates) and GOP candidates 48.4%.

Overall, Democrats dominated the 2024 federal elections… but Republicans were more competitive up and down the ballot than they were in 2020.

Does this represent a meaningful shift in partisan loyalties or does it just reflect idiosyncratic results due to the varying qualities of the candidates? One can make an argument for both interpretations.

Clearly, Harris had less appeal to Virginians than Biden did in 2020. (How he would have fared in 2024 is a different matter.) Trump was down 24,000 votes but Harris was down 189,000 compared to Biden. Was the problem the candidate? The candidate’s message? Changing voter priorities? We’ll be reading armchair punditry for weeks to come. (Let the circular firing squads in the Democratic Party commence!)

More fundamental than the candidates is the shift in the Democrat and Republican Party coalitions. The electorate appears to be realigning. Democrats are reconstituting themselves as the party of educated urban/suburban elites and “dispossessed” minorities. Under Trump, Republicans are reorganizing themselves as the party of those who see themselves as working people; as such, they continue to make inroads among minorities, especially Hispanics.

Showing how that realignment played out in Virginia’s electoral results this year may be beyond my pay grade. But I’ll be attentive to analysis that illuminates the issue.


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123 responses to “Dems Won in Virginia, But GOP Narrowed the Gap”

  1. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Many provisional and other ballots still to be counted (31 provisional votes in my precinct yesterday!), but overall the Republican performance looks much like 2016 and 2020. There was a wave yesterday but it missed Virginia. Cao ended up with enough money for late ads to keep up with Trump, but at the end it wasn't much of a challenge. Plenty of reason for hope in '25, but no reason for confidence.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      There were 40 provisional votes in my Henrico precinct–37 of them were same day registrations. Harris got 60+ percent of the vote in regular ballots, so I assume that she will get most of the provisionals as well.

  2. DJRippert Avatar

    It's going to be a lot less lively on the Rebellion once Trump sends the military to lock up his political enemies.

    Wait! Maybe they'll have internet connections in the internment camp cells.

    Trump could give Starlink the contract to pay back Musk for his support.

    Too bad Virginia didn't support Trump. There will be good jobs building those internment camps.

    Hopefully, now that the election is decided, some of the more insane accusations will stop.

    1. Don't count on it. How long do you think until the Democrat's ramp up the "resistance"?

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        What time does The View air? I may have to take a break from work to watch.

        Bette Middler (a keen political mind) said she would drink Drano if Trump won.

        If you can get me her address, I'll have a bottle of Drano and a coffee mug shipped to her.

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Are you suggesting that the opposition party in the US just shut up and not criticize the party in control? Surely you jestโ€ฆ

      3. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        What length of time elapsed between the election of 2020 and the โ€œresistanceโ€ by the GOP candidate thereto? When did it end? Just caught a bit of Kamalaโ€™s concession speech: she said the fight for freedom will not cease. Compared with that of Trump who boycotted Bidenโ€™s swearing in and campaigned on grievance for 4 years, a fight for freedom is not โ€œresistanceโ€ unless one feels that way.

      4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        About the same amount of time Republicans launched their "resistance" movement against Obama. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/republican-party-obstructionism-victory-trump-214498/

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          Oh so they sound like you the day after Youngkin was elected, isn't that cute.

      5. Marty Chapman Avatar
        Marty Chapman

        I am waiting for some sort of Dec surprise

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      DJ, use your connections to see if I can get a corner room….

    3. LarrytheG Avatar

      How about the "insane" promises that Trump was making?

  3. DJRippert Avatar

    I DM'd Elon on X. He's managing the internment camp program. He said you could have a corner room but you'll have to bunk with LarrytheG.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    I'm thinking there is a special facility for RINOs.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      RINOs get probation but must take and pass an online re-education course.

  5. DJRippert Avatar

    It is a different world up here in NoVa. My wife went to vote and when she came back she said, "I don't see how Trump can win since almost everybody I saw at the polling place was asking for the Democratic cheat sheet". I remember thinking that was more a statement about Northern Virginia than the mood of the country overall.

    Although …. Trump was +12 with Hispanics from 2020 and +4 with Asians.

    There are a lot of Hispanics and Asians up here.

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      And a lot of federal money.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Trump is going to do "stuff" for Hispanics, Asians Blacks, and people of color?

        really? What? I'm thinking "fool me once"…

    2. Lefty665 Avatar

      Talk about low information voters. Who needed a cheat sheet for this election, no matter which side you were on? A lot of them were likely our highly educated federal employees… scary.

  6. Matt Adams Avatar
    Matt Adams

    When the Federal Government is the largest employer in the land at 30 million people, they aren't going to vote for someone who has "claimed" he'll shrink the Fed.

  7. LarrytheG Avatar

    Well, now they ARE expecting Trump to do stuff for them! I wonder what it will be! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  8. LarrytheG Avatar

    I'm waiting to see where Liz ends up.

  9. But will Democrats stop the lawfare? That's a large part of why Trump became the nominee, and why he won.

    Speaking of Trump's victory:

    "It was also a thorough rejection of lawfare. One of the things most frustrating for Trumpโ€™s opponents was that every trial or hearing seemed to give Trump a boost in the polls. As cases piled up in Washington, New York, Florida and Georgia, the effort seemed to move more toward political acclamation than isolation."

    – Jonathan Turley

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4976533-trump-prosecutions-lawfare-end/

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      The lawfare might cease when folks cease committing crimes or are pardoned. The financial capacity using supporter funds to delay speedy trial proceedings denied that info to voters.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Yep. Law & Order!

      2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        The presidential immunity ruling for official acts may well save Biden. I can see some lawsuits seeking conviction for his failing to control the border. The SCOTUS decision will protect him. (I'm not so sure that lawfare is really dead.)

        Meanwhile, I'm pleased to be one of some 19,000 plus North Carolinians who wrote in other people for president. I couldn't vote for either major party candidate, and I didn't.

        1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
          Dick Hall-Sizemore

          How about for goveror?

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Presidential immunity will only benefit Biden when charges or law suits are actually filed. Delays, financed by contributed funds, to speedy trials have thus far served one felon very well and denied full disclosure of info of value to voters.

        3. LarrytheG Avatar

          What in the world would you even charge Biden with in the first place?

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      So, he did not deserve any of it? And he promises to go after his opponents using DOJ , etc?

      I dunno. I’m expecting more of the same from his first term and worse.

    3. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Trump's comeback began the day they raided Mar A Lago and rummaged through Melania's dresser drawers. Exactly then.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        the "idea" is that Trump gained substantially more support when these things happened to him?

        right?

        1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
          f/k/a_tmtfairfax

          Larry, you don't realize how much of flyover America despises East and West Coasters, especially the D.C. insiders, the media and actors.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Oh I do but it's totally misplaces IMO. Trump cares not one whit for them except as gullibles for gaslighting.

  10. LarrytheG Avatar

    what I "hear" is a stampede of jockeying for positions in the Trump world.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      The Project 2025 folks are alive and well with prepared lists to replace and expel the Deep Staters with their own who will qualify without security clearances. What will be the reaction of US allies?

  11. Kat Ross Avatar

    "We still don't have enough people that will support a woman for POTUS."

    It is not that we won't support A woman for President. It is that we don't support the ones that have run.

    Give me a Margaret Thatcher here in the states and I'll gladly put my mark next to her name. Elizabeth Dole, had she run, would have had my support. I was ready to back Nikki Haley, till she pulled out. Tsuli Gabbard, if she ever decides to run, might get my support.

    But the two that the DNC has offered up have repulsed me. I saw Clinton as too corrupt, too power hungry, and Harris is not really competent in my opinion – I see her as a puppet for the DNC.

    btw, this is a woman who has been voting for 40 years speaking- so it isn't a chauvinistic, hates women, thing.

    So, run the right woman – one that is smart, savvy in economics, competent in international affairs, genuinely cares about THIS country, charismatic, and can lead without using her gender as a tool, and you'll find supporters on both sides of the aisle.

    1. Teddy007 Avatar

      There is no female senator, governor, or congressional rep that would stand a chance of winning the election for president. Women are trapped in a bind where no matter what they do, they will be criticized and stereotypes. Look at how Harris was called ignorant ang low IQ but when more intelligent women have run for office, their opponents just adopt a different demining meme for them such as Elizabeth Warren.

      Tulsi Gabbard is someone who politics drove insane who switched from being a liberal Democrat to a Republican because running a doomed to fail presidential campaign drove her crazy.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Harris was not only trashed by the opposition but called trash.

  12. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    One solution would be the annexation of NoVA and DC to another state or establishing the two as the 51st state. Of course such must be accomplished while you are woken.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      A case could be made for combining Northern Virginia, Montgomery and Prince Georges Counties with D.C. as a 51st state.

      But the Democrats do not want that solution. It would deny them their built-in advantages in Virginia and Maryland.

      They are strategically patient. They will wait until they control both the presidency and Congress and vote to make D.C. and Puerto Rico into states.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      You forgot to add the suburban areas of Maryland around DC.

      A new state named Columbia.

      Virginia turns red, Columbia is deep blue, and Maryland becomes purple.

      Works for me.

      1. Chip Gibson Avatar
        Chip Gibson

        Aye Sir, and then the Great Commonwealth declares war upon Columbia and the task is completed. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    3. I'm pretty sure that if DC becomes a state it will no longer be able to be the seat of the federal government. The Constitution accommodates a "…District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States". It does not allow for a state to serve as the seat of the federal government.

    4. LarrytheG Avatar

      Maybe more logical. Give western Va to West Virginia and the rest of RoVa would be pretty balanced between Red and Blue!

  13. LarrytheG Avatar

    Right. Name a woman you WOULD support! Amy Klobuchar? Give me a list you would support. I bet
    it’s a real short one!

    1. Kat Ross Avatar

      Amy Klobuchar?

      Nope, sorry, she supports abortion as a means of birth control. That's a hard No from me.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I am pretty sure Amy does not support โ€œabortion as a means of birth controlโ€. That is a pretty absurd claimโ€ฆ youโ€™ve one, you donโ€™t have to post disinformation anymoreโ€ฆ

        1. Kat Ross Avatar

          If the abortion is for any reason other than in cases of rape or incest, or to save the life of the mother – medically necessary – then it is just another means of birth control.

          Don't want kids, don't have sex. Simple as that.

    2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
      energyNOW_Fan

      Somebody like Elizabeth Warren on the Dem side, I am not saying I agree with her, just saying she is "out there" as a vocal leader. You gotta have it all, good ideas and good leadership skills

      1. I'd pick Elizabeth Warren over Kamala Harris – but that's a pretty low bar.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        I think Warren is too far "left" myself. I think Klobachar is to the right of Warren and "strong".

  14. LarrytheG Avatar

    a lot of bad stuff is going to happen. We got a preview in the first administration and confirmation in the campaign. buck up…

  15. Did you even read the comment? Kast mentioned three women she would vote for.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      re: " Elizabeth Dole, had she run, would have had my support. I was ready to back Nikki Haley, till she pulled out. Tsuli Gabbard, if she ever decides to run, might get my support."

      You're right! I did miss that.

      Isn't Dole 88? And Gabbard a conspiracy theorist? geeze..

      short list! Liz CHeney is real, no?

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Kast seeks conservative women who are a mirror image made in the likeness of folks like Barry Goldwater and a few BR stalwarts.

        1. Kat Ross Avatar

          Not exactly.

          Now, if you had said Reagan, I would have agreed.

          Or even JFK – you know, ask not what your country can do for you – rather ask what you can do for your country.

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Nancy or Ron? JFK or JFK, Jr.? Surely, P47 repeats the JFK mantra daily – What can my country do for me.

        2. Kat Ross Avatar

          btw, I don't know where you are getting the S.

          It's Kat – not Kast.

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            One poster used Kast.

  16. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Letโ€™s wait for the post election analysis regarding the womenโ€™s vote in 2024. Initially, the total popular vote appears to be well below the total number registered and below 2016 and 2020. I recall VA has 5.8 million registered voters while the tables in this article reflects a total of 4.3 million voted in 2020. In 2016, Ms. Clinton prevailed in the popular vote total. Two Black women have won Senate seats this election along with a trans House member. The โ€œrightโ€ woman since the days of Shirley Chisholm is being identified. Conservative women like Liz Dole and Marsha Blackburn do exist.

    1. Teddy007 Avatar

      Marsha Blackburn comes off at a ditz on TV and has a BS in home economics.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      There are some tough nut women in the GOP in the House and Senate and some Govs.

      But I don't think any of them can advance in the GOP itself.

  17. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Still got TDS and YDS pretty bad, huh?
    The sun still rose.
    You haven't been arrested…yet.
    Nor has Donnie Deutch or Joy Reid.
    Oooh…Heritage published Project 2025…RUN!
    Why not try saying what you don't like of it instead of the scare tactics for the stupid?

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Bless your heart!! I am seeking to renew my Irish passport before being interned by the military. Sure, youโ€™re correct, why donโ€™t I like the prospect of gummint personnel serving without security clearances. That prospect is under the care of Boris Epshteyn, a Trump loyalist confidant as a component of the scrubbing of Deep State civil servants. Ooooh, P47โ€™s staff!!!

  18. LarrytheG Avatar

    You know, California was RED for quite some time before it turned blue. Is that also attributable to govt employees?

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Nah!!! It was San Francisco's Haight Ashbury and later marijuana.

  19. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    NoVA is the southern end-point of the super-Blue "RGGI" state East Coast blue zone, and since we (NoVA) are more populous, we turn the whole of Virginia blue. Nationally the 2024 election's Blue Kamala states look a lot like the CARB automobile states: those states which have adopted California auto regulations. NM dropped out of CARB but were in it for a while.

    So these are the fellow states that we are associated with, and the main reason we got into this predicament is DMV is part of USGovt payroll.

    Trump apparently calling for off-shore wind moratorium (as New England is trying to build better big turbine blades that do not fall apart) and by the way, can we get FBI HQ back in Springfield or stay in DC now?

  20. LarrytheG Avatar

    Regardless of her gender, I don't think that position will win many women, no?

    I suspect then, the women that are acceptable to you are a very short list even for GOP.

    How about Elise Stefanik ?

    1. Kat Ross Avatar

      As I said, I'm looking for a candidate who is smart, savvy in economics, competent in international affairs, genuinely cares about THIS country, charismatic, and can lead without using her gender as a tool. Too many of the women running for national level offices fail on at least 2 of those criteria. (But, to be fair, so do most of the men.)

      So you are correct, there are not many women currently in the political arena that I consider acceptable to hold that seat.

      I'm not familiar with Elise Stefanik. A quick scan of her wiki page shows that she is a moderate, so I probably would give her consideration if she were to toss her metaphorical hat into the rink.

        1. Kat Ross Avatar

          I'll have to find the right time to look at this. Thank you.

        2. Kat Ross Avatar

          I'd be more inclined to look to these women first, over a senator. All but one are sitting governors.

          Kay Ivey (R), Alabama
          Katie Hobbs (D), Arizona
          Sarah Huckabee Sanders (R), Arkansas
          Kim Reynolds (R), Iowa
          Laura Kelly (D), Kansas
          Janet Mills (D), Maine
          Maura Healey (D), Massachusetts
          Gretchen Whitmer (D), Michigan
          Michelle Lujan Grisham (D), New Mexico
          Kathy Hochul (D), New York
          Tina Kotek (D), Oregon
          Kristi Noem (R), South Dakota
          Winsome Sears (R), Virginia – Lt. Governor.

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Yah, those noted have deep government and electoral experience like Ms. Harris but unlike P47 who arrived at the WH with experience in neither milieu. Except for an alleged repulsion, Ms. Clinton far surpassed those on the list with her experience. Her hubbo was a governor so maybe some of that rubbed off. I don't think Liz Dole's experience matched that of any named.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Pretty sure there are Pro-Choice supporters in that list akin to Amy K. Has your line in the sand vanished?

  21. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Are you addressing Project 2025, or just ridiculous fear? Or is that anti-Semitism?
    The 51 security chiefs who lied about Hunter's laptop…how many had security clearances?
    The problem isn't the pieces of paper…it is the people who hold the credentials that they think makes them superior…and entitled to break the law.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Oh, ridiculous fear is actually – as with many of your statements – real to the perceiver. It appears you are prepared to accept and validate the decisions of Trump appointees not vetted for security clearance. That's the way to avoid ridiculous fear – eliminate credentials. Let 'er rip!!!

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        "It appears you are prepared to accept and validate the decisions of Trump appointees not vetted for security clearance. "

        New appointees will complete their SF86 just like all other appointees before them. They will be adjudicated by OPM and determined if they can hold a TS.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          Facts! You and your damnable facts!

      2. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Because the credentialed class has destroyed its credibility! I didn’t do that. The so-called elites did it to themselves.

  22. LarrytheG Avatar

    so, the women, to be viable for POTUS have to have the same position on abortion as the GOP men? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    hmmm

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      A more honest (respectable) thing to say would have been that Amy is Pro-Choice and that is a hard no for Kat. Fair enough. But the Right really canโ€™t help themselves.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Agree. I’m not going to be surprised if analysis shows that Harris fell short on Dem male votes like Clinton did. Could a woman like Klobachar overcome that better? I don’t think the abortion thing works the same way for Dems than GOP, i.e Male Dem turnout for female candidate – abortion not an issue.

    2. Kat Ross Avatar

      Not really.

      This mythical candidate should take the position that termination a pregnancy is not, nor should it ever be, a political issue – especially on the national stage.

      If you must make it a political issue, keep it on the state level.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Tell that to the abortion die hards!

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Sovereignty over one's body -right to liberty – is not a theological matter and is one that the GOP and SCOTUS tossed into the political sphere – left to the states to determine. The resulting chaos and deaths from health care restrictions are traceable to state interpretations of Dobbs. They have not required any assistance to weave abortion into the political arena.

  23. Kat Ross Avatar

    Yep.

    On both sides of the issue.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Do you think your position is consistent with most women on this issue?

      1. Kat Ross Avatar

        I cannot speak for "most women".

        I can only speak for myself and the majority of my family, friends, and associates.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          well, but we’re talking about women that can run and win, no?
          Are you interested in women winning or are you a one-issue person?

  24. LarrytheG Avatar

    what was wrong with Roe v Wade?

    1. Kat Ross Avatar

      Made something federal that should have been left in the hands of the states.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        ah. so it won’t be Federalized now?

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        That darn SCOTUS interpreting its Constitutional authority to apply Law and Equity to questions arising before it. PTL, Sam Alito for recognizing that point decades after Roe v Wade. Time for SCOTUS to man up and undertake reconsideration of many other precedents. Now, Dobbs advocates seek to limit interstate travel and commerce to tighten up the rules.

    2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      I find its standards reasonable, even though the opinion was a farce. And FOCA would have enshrined Roe's standards into federal law.

    3. DJRippert Avatar

      It hallucinated a "right" to an abortion in the US Constitution. No such "right" exists.

      The US Supreme Court ruling against Roe v Wade did not prohibit abortion or make abortion illegal.

      It did not ban either federal or state law from allowing abortion.

      It put the question of abortion back where it belongs – in the hands of elected legislatures.

  25. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    OTOH, annexation would create two new Senate seats and a couple of House seats to be elected by Deep State voters. OMG!! Dems are "strategically patient'? GOPers plotted for decades from Ike's comment about a Chief Justice being a mistake to Trump's appointment of 3 comrades in belief.

    BTW, what characteristics constitute a federal district? Legal designation? Jurisdiction name? Trade and commerce? Are parts of VA federal military districts? Propinquity to government seat? How does Puerto Rico fit into this equation? Ought Texas annex Mexico to solve the southern border issues?

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      Mexico should seek a merger with the US. It's painfully obvious that the ruling class in that country can't govern anything.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar

        Or maybe export our "governing" elites to Mexico. There's still gaps in the wall they could get through.

  26. LarrytheG Avatar

    pretty good lineup!

  27. LarrytheG Avatar

    geeze, don't tempt them… they're on the verge
    of all over the map….

  28. Lefty665 Avatar

    Perhaps just being sure you don't get pregnant is a more practical solution.

    1. Kat Ross Avatar

      Agreed. Just be responsible.

  29. Kat Ross Avatar

    That is but one point.

    My main focus is on the economy, and maintaining our Republic.

    We are currently 63 Trillion dollars in debt, and it is growing every minute. We need to bring that under control. That means making hard decisions – like cutting the federal government spending.

    The country is broken and we're too busy fighting each other over labels. To me it seems like the Republic is coming apart at the seams.
    When we have people in national positions calling half the country names, it only serves to make the rips wider. Both sides are doing this. – But then I am Libertarian, so I don't like either of the major parties.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar

      Think you got that backwards. It's more like $36T. Either way too much and unsustainable as it swells year after year.

      1. Kat Ross Avatar

        Oops, you're right. I flipped the numbers.

        Still, 36T is too much.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar

          Lysdexia rules ๐Ÿ™‚

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Indeed, let us return to the state of nature as Hobbes and other critics characterized it as "nasty and brutish" where every individual was unrestrained and unrestricted from self aggrandizement. Common wealth and states like VA adopting the term Commonwealth are out of touch mandating that the common weal be shared.

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        Commonwealth has nothing to do with economics. The term "commonwealth" was favored during the American Revolution to emphasize a government based on the common consent of the people, distinguishing these entities from monarchical rule. For instance, Massachusetts adopted the term in its 1780 constitution, influenced by anti-monarchical sentiment.

    3. DJRippert Avatar

      Why don't you run for office? You seem to have clear and reasonable policy thoughts.

  30. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    FOCA would have fixed it all.

  31. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    โ€œโ€ฆthen it is just another means of birth control.โ€

    That is your belief but, importantly, not the belief of Pro-Choice supporters like Amy. Consider not assigning your beliefs and opinions to othersโ€ฆ unless you really do want to continue your disinformation campaign in perpetuityโ€ฆ

    1. To whom did she "assign" her beliefs? It looked to me like she stated her own opinion.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        To Amy. She says that Amy โ€œsupports abortion as a means of birth controlโ€. She says Amy position is this because Kat believes that any use of โ€œrape or incest, or to save the life of the motherโ€ is simply birth control. I certainly donโ€™t believe that and I am pretty sure most Pro-Choice supporters do not believe that.

        1. What you described is imposing or forcing one's beliefs on others (and she may very well be guilty of that).

          Assigning one's beliefs to others is acting/speaking as if a particular person or group of persons agrees with your beliefs.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I think that is exactly what Kat is doing. She says Amy supports using abortion as birth control. In order for Amy to actually have that position, she would have to agree with Katโ€™s belief that every use of abortion aside from the narrow exceptions she cited is birth control. Pretty sure Amy does not see things that way.

            But, eh, semanticsโ€ฆ

  32. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    One silver lining for Virginia Democrats is that they will again have Trump to use as a cudgel against Republicans in the gubernatioral and legislative races over the next four years.

  33. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Eliminate the Electoral College to force candidates to campaign in 50 states to secure a majority. Then, every Americanโ€™s vote has meaning along with flyover jurisdictions. Then, also, your write in will not be necessary.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar

      Wrong again, you never learn. Anything I can do to help you get your passport approved?

  34. LarrytheG Avatar

    What I got out of it was that Kat considers abortion for almost any reason to be wrong and unacceptable, in response to a question about an acceptable woman to run for POTUS.

    I think that would probably rule out the vast majority of woman Dem or GOP and what woman who held that position would have zero chance of being elected , not as a woman, but as a candidate regardless of gender.

    So the whole question about woman candidates for POTUS just sorta blew up in my view.

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