Bacon's Rebellion

Careful There, Dems, These Are Your Voters

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James A. Bacon
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by Kerry Dougherty

I’m not in the habit of offering political advice to Democrats, but they might want to consider toning down the “convicted felon” rhetoric.

Ever since Donald Trump was convicted of 34 felony charges in New York, the left has become a Greek chorus, chanting “convicted felon” every time they mention his name.

As if that’s a bad thing in Democrat world.

After all, this is a party that not only courts lawbreakers with its soft-on-crime policies, but it depends on the felon vote.

There’s a reason Democrats consistently fight for automatic restoration of voting rights for convicted felons, often before they’ve finished serving their sentences. Shoot, in Vermont and Maine incarcerated felons are allowed to vote.

Anyone else remember the stunt former Gov. Terry McAuliffe pulled to help his old pal Hillary in the months before the 2016 election? He violated the Virginia Constitution by offering blanket restoration of voting rights to more than 206,000 Virginia felons just months before Election Day. Continue reading.

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97 responses to “Careful There, Dems, These Are Your Voters”

  1. Bob X from Texas Avatar
    Bob X from Texas

    My take away from reading the article is that 99% of felons are democrats. If you took guns away from democrats the murder rate would go down 99%.

  2. Wahoo'74 Avatar
    Wahoo'74

    Excellent article and spot on.

    Democrats will do whatever it takes to boost their votes – allowing imprisoned convicted felons or 10 million illegal aliens for whom they want to grant voting rights.

    JFK’s “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” has been replaced by “Whatever it takes to win” as the official Democrat Party motto.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      The illegal aliens are counted in the Census whether they vote or not.

      Pumping up the population of liberal urban and inner suburban Congressional districts with illegal aliens mans that the residents of those districts who are legally allowed to vote have their votes amplified compared to exurban and rural areas with few illegal aliens.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        All the ways on the margin Dems have learned to game the system. Far beyond just the dead voting.
        The 2020 election was stolen. Too many statistical anomalies, besides the strange "coincidences" like the Atlanta water pipe or covering windows in Michigan and late night deliveries of "ballots."
        Why do Dems have a whole lawfare system designed to make the vote less secure? How come I need to show an ID to fly, but not to vote? To enter a Federal Courthouse?
        How come we can't have real audits?
        If you are the beneficiary of a trust, and you accuse the fiduciary of stealing from you, what is the first thing the honest fiduciary does?
        So how come all of the fiduciaries of our votes don't immediately open the books and instead spend millions to prevent an honest look?
        Better yet, ask this one question of any Dem, is it wrong to cheat in elections? You will never get a straight answer. You will get the party line of Republicans suppressing the vote (enjoy the racism in Dems saying blacks can't get ID!), but never a straight answer.
        Here's my answer – it is wrong to cheat in elections. See how simple that is?

      2. Wahoo'74 Avatar
        Wahoo'74

        Yep👎🏻

      3. Not Today Avatar
        Not Today

        That knife cuts both ways. Ever been to a rural meat, poultry, or veg processing plant? There be your immigrants.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          farm labor, field workers, harvesting, housekeepers, roofers, etc. working for sub-standard wages that they cannot complain about….

          best of all worlds. Cheap Labor, collect sales taxes, property taxes, FICA taxes….while they remain second class citizens working in a shadow economy, and demonized for elections.

      4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        ☝️Conservative argues for taxation with no representation…

  3. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Shades of Edwards/Duke in Cajun Country
    Vote for the Convicted Felon
    Not the Unindicted Traitor
    It's Important

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    They’re still better voters than your candidates. Democrat voters maybe felons, but the Republican presidential candidate is too.

    It’s along the lines of “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.”

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Make some of those voters candidates if you don't want Trump as president again. Going after him instead of fielding a real candidate to oppose him is barking up the wrong tree. There's still time, don't waste it.

    2. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      So how do you explain Biden?
      Looks like a frontal and rear and side lobotomy.
      Yeah, leader of the Free World. Our enemies fear and respect him.
      Did you get a good price for your soul, or trade it for a bowl of stew?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Did you know that brain cells don’t replace themselves?

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Did you know that brain cells don’t replace themselves?

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          Biden makes that clear every day. Please, pretty please, find a real candidate.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Last 4 years bin berry, berry good to me.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That's a pretty selfish view as well as remarkably short sighted. Have you no concern for the other 90% of the country or the world for that matter?

            If you want more Trump, keep pushing Biden & Giggles and you'll get it. The Dems need to nominate an actual candidate. There's still time, please.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            That’s the American view. Why do you think this blog exists? “DE&I does nothing for me”, “Renewable energy does nothing for me”, “Confederate statues and flags do”….

          4. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Please work to help the Dems nominate an actual candidate. I don't want another Trump administration, but that's what we're going to get if demented old Joe and Giggles are the alternative.

          5. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            C’mon, be honest, Gore & Bush? When was the last time you were enthusiastic?

          6. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Hey, as part of the Party we (wife and I) helped turn Virginia blue in 2008. We were enthusiastic about that (plus McCain was scary – talk about severe PTSD) until we realized that the campaign of "Change" turned into government of "Same" and that ran us out of the Party. In '06 we were enthusiastic about helping Webb beat Allen. Drinking beer with Webb was fun too. I voted for Perot in '96, that was pleasing, and I liked Jimmy Carter. Kennedy's inauguration was really cold and snowy, but I was enthusiastic to be there.

            As underwhelming as many of the candidates have been none have ever before demonstrated they were senile demented. Biden is unique in that.

            Please Dems save the country from Trump by nominating an actual candidate. There is still time before the convention.

          7. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            My $1 to your $0.1, it’s Parkinson’s. It’s the gait. It’s the type that retards motor reaction. In the past 10 years, I’ve watched two friends with it. It’s really random in how it progresses and rarely causes problems with mental acuity. It’s far worse. It walls you in.

          8. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            My Dad had a variation that was heartbreaking to watch progress.

            He took about 7 years to go from a profoundly competent EE to unable to form a sentence. It was variously diagnosed as non palsy Parkinson's and Progressive Supranuclear Palsy.

            The gait, the hoarseness, the mumbling, the whispering, the vacant confusion and disorientation from time and place in Biden is eerily familiar and sends chills down my spine as I watch it progressing in him.

            For his sake and ours let him go sit on the beach for the next couple of years as he finishes devolving. He is profoundly incapable of being president. That endangers the entire world as well as being cruel to him.

            On a practical level, as Biden's current trip to Europe has demonstrated, he is unsafe in public. He has a presidential campaign to run for the next 4+ months. That will require constant public appearances which will put a spotlight on every dysfunction. A basement campaign that keeps him out of sight except for carefully scripted appearances as with Covid in '20 won't work. The degeneration was well under way then, and it's had 3 1/2 years to progress since.

            The country understands what's happening with Biden so, despite all his own baggage, Trump's lead will increase. We narrowly got Biden in '20 because he was not Trump. The reverse will be true this year. My dollar to your dime.

            The Dems still have a chance to rescue the country. Thank Joe for being a bridge to the future, send him (and Giggles) to the beach and nominate a real candidate.

          9. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            “ Trump’s lead will increase.” Nah. He will fade from here even against Joe. The next four will be fine. Joe and gang won’t do anything drastic and things will cook along nicely. “It’s the economy, stupid.” Always was, always will be.

          10. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Our views vary. I'll take my dollar against your dime, but not because I like the prospects of another Trump administration.

            Joe and his gang of second rate Obama/Clinton retreads have already done far too many drastic things. They have not corrected their course, in fact they have doubled down on their mistakes. It started with Identity Politics, the payoff of picking Giggles as a reward for SC black Dems saving Joe from Bernie, the debacle in Afghanistan once in office and has gone down hill from there.

            Obama was right with "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up", and that was from a time when Joe had something that passed for a brain.

            You are right, it is indeed the economy, stupid. The rate of inflation may be slowing, but prices are not coming down as Joe has been touting (nor is deflation good, although that is a different topic). Wages have not kept up with prices.

            Most of the country, although not many of us here in the peanut gallery of BR, is worse off then it was 4 years ago.

            Credit card debt is at record level, interest rates are up. People are buying groceries and gas on credit cards whose outstanding balances are increasing. Each month people are further in the hole. Job gains are mostly part time with increasing numbers of people holding several of them to make ends meet. 10M illegals who work cheap depress wages for legitimate workers.

            Although they seem mystified, those are the reasons Biden is not getting much credit for Bidenomics and this "wonderful" economy. Inflation was not over 9% when Joe took office, no matter how often he says it.

            Cannibals cooking the BLS numbers like they did Joe's uncle doesn't actually make things better, but those are also stories for another day.

            Please, pretty please, encourage your party to nominate an actual candidate. We will all be better off. There's still time.

          11. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Who? Mayor Pete? I think he’d be great, but won’t stand a chance.

          12. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That is the next problem, Dems have spent the last 30 years not building much of a bench. Not that the Repubs have done a lot better…

          13. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Good news, whatever bench the Republicans had have all disqualified themselves over trump.

          14. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Doesn't matter this year, they're stuck with Trump, and by '28 it'll be old news. Dems OTOH still have a chance to rescue this year, please.

          15. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Best I can do for you is a clothes pin.

          16. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Thanks, no matter what happens we're going to need one.

          17. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “The rate of inflation may be slowing…”

            It was zero in May 🤷‍♂️

            “…but prices are not coming down…”

            All other factors being equal, the only way prices can come down is through deflation. You think the Biden administration should pursue a deflationary strategy…? I think not…

          18. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            C'mon troll you know better. It was zero change from last month, not actually zero.

            I've also said several times that deflation is something we don't want. Deflation is another of Biden's delusions that make folks laugh at him.

            Sorta sad when you're reduced to making stuff up.

            Dems, please, please give us a candidate.

          19. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            See below… The CPI is the consumer price index… a 0.0 change in the CPI means that it did not change for that month and for that month inflation was 0.0… actually zero.. I made nothing up, you are simply wrong. If you want consumer prices to drop, you would need a negative change in the CPI and that would indeed be deflation.. Biden understands this… Trump certainly does not… I will stick with Biden.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b42d5e9c5938b409554fef41079a10fff5f36de3d3b6f70f02f4c6b479ad5f60.jpg

          20. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0bb577557ab76f8a29b48d4a47e8ed98a6bbca1bcc7ad1db544d3b02a0461a8.png

          21. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            You first…

          22. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            The Repubs are stuck with Trump, but the Dems still have a chance to come to their senses, retire demented Joe & Giggles and nominate actual candidates. If y'all don't it's another 4 years of Trump. Denial is not your friend.

            My choice is neither Biden or Trump. Expect I'll be voting 3rd party again this year. There are now more of us Indys than either Repubs or Dems. One of these elections there's hope that will change politics.

          23. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “The Repubs are stuck with Trump…”

            Hmmm… why is that? Your argument would have more validity if you were even remotely willing at placing the blame for the Trump threat at the feet of the people who actually voted for him. Alas, that doesn’t seem to be your intention at all…

          24. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            The Repubs are stuck with Trump because he is dominant in the party. Despite all the unattractive things he is, he is not soft in the head like old Joe.

            The blame for Trump goes back a long ways, to the Dems kicking their New Deal working class populist base to the curb in the '70s after 40 years of rule.

            Although it is not a natural match for the Repubs, Reagan first, then Trump picked up that constituency. That is what carried Trump into office in '16. Plus, he was not Hillary which was profound too.

            The Dems subsequent doubling down on Identity Politics and other foolishness like forcing EVs and not understanding the impact of inflation on most of the country has further alienated that constituency.

            We got Biden in '20 because he was not Trump. People were tired of the constant drama and turmoil.

            This year will reverse, the country will not re-elect someone with obvious and worsening senile dementia, his buddy Giggles and narrow identity politics. Biden is no longer a less unattractive alternative to Trump.

            The Dems still have a chance to retire Joe & Giggles and nominate a real candidate. Unless of course they're really longing for another 4 years of Trump, or their TDS is so profound it has blinded them.

            My intention is simple, and clear, to encourage Dems to put their efforts behind selecting a non-demented candidate who has a chance of winning in November.

            But, if your preference is to deny old Joe's obvious dementia and to continue poking at Trump's warts instead, have at it. You will have 4 years to regret your choices. It's a free country. Take your pick.

          25. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “…he is not soft in the head….”

            He most certainly is… absolutely no question.

            I and my party are perfect happy with Biden. I hope you will at least be pleased when he beats Trump yet again.

          26. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Dream on. Trump has a skiffle full of issues, most profoundly pathological narcissism that drives many of the others. But, he is not soft in the head. Biden is soft in the head.

            No, I would not be pleased if a senile demented candidate prevails in any election.

            Wake up. If you look around you will see an increasing portion of your party is horrified at what they are seeing with Biden's candidacy.

            Trump's lead is larger now than it was when he was convicted of 34 felonies. There is a message in those numbers.

            As Biden was fond of saying, "Don't compare me to the Almighty, compare me to my opposition". The country has done that and it unsurprisingly prefers drama and chaos to senile dementia in the oval office.

            Your party can still do the country and the world a favor. Retire Joe & Giggles to the beach and nominate a real candidate.

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Well, it’s not like Joe Biden had that many brain cells to begin with, but that is a rational explanation.

        3. CJBova Avatar
          CJBova

          NN: https://health.ucsd.edu/news/press-releases/2020-04-15-when-damaged-adult-brain-repairs-itself-going-back-to-beginning/ “When adult brain cells are injured, they revert to an embryonic state, according to new findings published in the April 15, 2020 issue of Nature by researchers at University of California San Diego School of Medicine, with colleagues elsewhere. The scientists report that in their newly adopted immature state, the cells become capable of re-growing new connections that, under the right conditions, can help to restore lost function.”

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Injured, not dead.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Precisely, and demented old Joe's are dead and more dying by the day. Show some empathy, let him retire to the beach and nominate a real candidate.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            It’s a fair contest. Either way, you’re going to put an 81-year old man in office, and to date, Trump has not demonstrated an iota more mental acuity.

    3. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Make some of those voters candidates if you don't want Trump as president again. Going after him instead of fielding a real candidate to oppose him is barking up the wrong tree. There's still time, don't waste it.

    4. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Yeah, you’re right. But they can’t and don’t vote.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Ah, then that does make you anti-American.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          yeah! Where is you pedigree NN? Are you a legitimate American or a poser?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            A punishment he’s reserving for Democrats. Oh wait, no. He said “dems”, so advocates of democracy.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Bernese Mountain Dog, and you? Wait, wait, don’t tell me. Golden Retar… uh, Retriever.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            You're both barking up the wrong trees. Get us a real candidate please, the lights are on but nobody's home that we've got now is terrifying.

  5. Rosie Avatar
    Rosie

    Having a dog profile pice is just all too appropriate for this kind of post.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      cooked data?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Cooked data, yes. Show me the calculations from the references cited. Citing references without page numbers or subsequent calculations is not "sources" but largely hand-waving.

        You can make all the inferences and observations you want – but they're largely bogus.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          what does this have to do with the US budget?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7TKR87TYB2HhGqly/giphy-downsized-small.mp4

          2. AngloVirginian Avatar
            AngloVirginian

            This dude understands! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f7b5d5183d74b91c30d2529b72d24aac97aa7d5474423e7366277322b0b3e5b5.jpg

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            What’s the point here?

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      HEY!

  6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    Every convicted felon, D or R or I: “Why is he not in jail…?”

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Stable genius…
    https://x.com/BidenHQ/status/1801253739442974828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1801253739442974828%7Ctwgr%5E147b87115dccadccfb717207f6e548fe02066e0d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fdonald-trump-2024-debate-claim_n_666bea9ee4b0dabf8cf730ae

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Whenever I heard him say he was a stable genius I always thought of the Jack Elam character, Jake, in “Support Your Local Sheriff”.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdcHShV30c0&t=43s

  8. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Larry – please try to explain in a cogent manner why saying felons can't vote is an unwise policy.
    If one violates the rules of citizenship (how quaint, amirite?), is such a penalty as an incentive not to violate such major rules not a policy that makes sense?

    And please, when you complain about people posting without sources, thanks for proving yourself the hypocrite you are.

    One more thing – trick question – is it wrong to cheat in elections?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      It's an arbitrary and capricious punishment that has nothing to do with the crime itself and it started as
      a Jim Crow law designed to deny blacks the right to vote.

      "hypocrite" is a personal Attack. apologize or remove it or I will flag it.

      I'm going to call you on it, everytime you do it from now on AND report it to Jim Bacon directly.

      totally wrong to cheat in elections… totally wrong to try to lie about election results and
      overturn elections with the lies .. those folks now charged with crimes as should be.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Larry – you posted this comment below –
        "Cooked data, yes. Show me the calculations from the references cited. Citing references without page numbers or subsequent calculations is not "sources" but largely hand-waving.

        You can make all the inferences and observations you want – but they're largely bogus."
        Then you posted your caption, without any reference. I clicked the caption and saw nothing. That seemed "hypocritical" to me, so I called you out for not practicing what you preach.
        Which seems in line with the word "hypocrite." Not an attack. A description. Would it help if I said "it seems to me your actions are hypocritical?"

        Now I see the link for publicintegrity – I'll check it out, which is more than I think you ever do, but I clicked the picture and saw nothing.
        Also, at some point, Jim Crow has been over for a while. And according to Joe Biden, it's Jim Eagle – get with the program!

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          You do not make personal attacks, period. Walter. None! You address the subject not the person just
          as it says on the BR masthead. The vast majority of what I post here DOES have the sources and reference.
          Not perfect at it and certainly not hypocritical. Do NOT attack people.

        2. CJBova Avatar
          CJBova

          In the situation cited, Larry, Walter is describing your behavior and commentary. As he said, that is not a personal attack.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            And I am not trying to cause grief!

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            all on tape, as they say

      2. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        And, now that I have perused your cite and site, it is the typical disparate impact and misleading headline.
        Have you read it?
        How many "blacks" were stopped from voting according to your left-wing site that claims it is "Investigating Inequality"?

        Let me help – It is 1/3rd of 4.6 million. So, apparently, 2/3rds of felons not voting are "whites" and whatever ridiculous term is used for Hispanic or Asian or whatever.
        Now 1/3 is greater than 15% which appears "disproportionate," but is the disproportionality "racist" or is it that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crimes?

        And just because it is you who will go to any effort to deny that illegitimacy contributes to more crime, which, disproportionately affects blacks, but really affects all, illegitimacy is a factor – one of many, and the illegitimacy statistics from Iceland are irrelevant.

        Now admit it – you didn't read the article, did you? You posted the graphic to imply 4.6 million "blacks" were denied the vote, didn't you? And please note the inherent racism that "blacks" are required to vote Dem… It's pretty sickening.

        Did you read the article? Is it "Jim Crow" that is depriving 2/3rds of not "black" felons the right to vote?

        And I do not altogether buy the lose the right to vote was passed strictly for "Jim Crow" reasons. I think there is decent policy behind it. Why is it not wise policy?

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          So Larry – let’s assume that felons don’t vote was specifically racist.
          Is Jim Crow over?
          Is the felons don’t vote law applied equally, regardless of race? Yes it is.
          Make a cogent argument besides the usual systemic racism blather that it is a bad policy. I don’t have a problem with the concept of restoration in certain circumstances under the “paid my debt to society,” but not for things like murder and other intentional crimes.

      3. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        And now proving my point…
        "totally wrong to cheat in elections… totally wrong to try to lie about election results and
        overturn elections with the lies .. those folks now charged with crimes as should be."

        So, if cheating does occur, then are you lying by saying it is "wrong to try to lie about election results"? Wouldn't that be "a lie?"

        Why can't you just say "It is wrong to cheat in elections"?

        I'll help – "All cheating in elections is wrong." Then let's work together to stop cheating so people will have trust in our elections and "save democracy." You do want to save democracy, don't you?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Let's work together to stop people trying to overturn elections along with true widespread fraud then we can go after individual cases of fraud.

          People who work to overthrow elections are the ones who are undermining trust in my view.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Therefore, under Larry Law, RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA people need to go to jail? Correct? A lie, correct? Did not Democrats try the same elector challenge in 2016? Does that “undermine democracy”? So, does throwing the book at the 2020 challenges, where there are a vast number more of legitimate challenges than in 2016 where the only challenge was totally made up as a dirty trick, while letting all the liars of the 2016 RRR hoax go scot-free, undermining to democracy?
            It is. You could do a lot for your credibility, which is pretty near to zero for me, by admitting it.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Walter, didn’t people go to jail who were unregistered foreign agents and such? Who are the RUSSIARUSSIA folks anyhow? Democrats did challenge in 2016 but they did not send false electors to stop certification of the election did not attack the Capitol and threaten to hang the VP, etc. My credibility is fine Walter… it’s your problem not mine.

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Proving hypocrisy here which led to the word you took offense at.
            You said people who try to overturn elections should go to jail. Besides the Dem elector challenge in 2016 (and 2004 and 2000 and 1960) there was a totally fabricated Russia hoax to try to get rid of Trump.
            Shouldn’t they go to jail?
            While we are at it, Hillary’s campaign was fined by the FEC – a pittance – for $5 million spent to generate the bogus dossier, which was known to be bogus by the FBI when Mueller started his investigation, and he spent $40 million on undermining Trump’s executive authority into the 2018 midterms. Meanwhile, the FEC invesitgated the so-called hush money, paid in 2017, and determined there was no fine and no wrongdoing. But that payment AFTER THE ELECTION, is used as a basis for 34 “felonies” for election interference in 2016 in NYC when the FEC already determined there was nothing wrong with it. AND, Judge Merchan would not let the former head of the FEC testify.
            You approve of banana republic Stasi tactics. You refuse to acknowledge the danger. You dismiss wrongdoing by your side, and approve of made up wrongdoing to prosecute people who do not agree with your (false, destructive) beliefs. You define yourself.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Challenging election results Walter is not the same as bogus electors intended to overturn the election results and these folks who did this are on trial now.

            People who challenge the elections following legal process are doing it the right way and are not charged because they did nothing illegal.

            The FBI uses informants who may be lying. Police do this also. It's a legitimate and legal thing to do. I think they did it in Hunter BIdens case also.

            It's up to the prosecutor to know what is a lie and not and proceed on that basis.

            A judge and/or a jury will decide if it is true or not.

            I trust our legal system to work – not perfectly without fault but it's way way better than many other countries.

      4. CJBova Avatar
        CJBova

        Larry, keep it up and you will get a temporary ban.

        Disenfranchisement of felons long pre-dates Jim Crow.
        “The first US felony provisions were introduced in 1792 in Kentucky,[11] although the first actual law disenfranchising felons was introduced by Connecticut in 1818.[12] By 1840, four states[a] had felony disenfranchisement policies. By the American Civil War, about 24 states had some form of felony disenfranchisement policy or similar provision in the state constitution, although only eighteen actually disenfranchised felons.[b][13] The Fourteenth Amendment was adopted in 1868, and by 1870 the number had increased to 28 (out of 38 states).[13]” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement_in_the_United_States

        https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Uh yep, and the overwhelming numbers of blacks and whites charged with felonies and misdemeanors respectively for the same crimes made it a powerful weapon.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          " Disfranchisement after the Reconstruction era[2] in the United States, especially in the Southern United States, was based on a series of laws, new constitutions, and practices in the South that were deliberately used to prevent black citizens from registering to vote and voting. These measures were enacted by the former Confederate states at the turn of the 20th century. Efforts were also made in Maryland, Kentucky, and Oklahoma.[3] Their actions were designed to thwart the objective of the Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, ratified in 1870, which prohibited states from depriving voters of their voting rights based on race.[4] The laws were frequently written in ways to be ostensibly non-racial on paper (and thus not violate the Fifteenth Amendment), but were implemented in ways that selectively suppressed black voters apart from other voters.[5]"

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disfranchisement_after_the_Reconstruction_era

          I'm screen capping this.

          If I post something and give the source – what rule am I breaking?

          You're threatening a ban why?

          1. CJBova Avatar
            CJBova

            “f I post something and give the source – what rule am I breaking? You’re threatening a ban why?”
            Because you go off topic and cherry pick data to support your constant Jim Crow allegations and ignore facts such as the actual 1740 origin of felony disenfranchisement today. Then you complain you’re being attacked if someone challenges you. This is not the Larry show or blog.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I follow the rules on the masthead and you got involved in the subject itself with your view and then threatened sanctions for another view – that had sources. What I posted about felon disenfranchisement during Jim Crow was NOT my opinion – it was backed up with credible sources, and there are many including Wikipedia that confirm it.

            That's not cherry picking, it's ON POINT.

            Someone calls someone a hypocrite and you say it's not a personal attack because it's "describing a behavior".

            .

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “…cherry pick data to support your constant Jim Crow allegations and ignore facts…”

            I saw no rule outlawing data cherry picking or fallacious arguments. Can you cite them please?

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            and like it's not done here on a regular basis by a variety of folk… who routinely "ignore facts" also…

          5. CJBova Avatar
            CJBova

            The rule is against off topic comments that add nothing to the discussion, particularly repetitive postings. Anyone may point out fallacious arguments in another’s posts.

          6. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            THe discussion about felony voting rights IS THE subject of the blog post, no?

            New sources were provided when questions about factual references was brought up.

            The "off topic" thing would have a lot more validity if it was uniformly enforced the same way for all topics and all commenters, in my view.

          7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            In Kerry’s piece she wrote: “He violated the Virginia Constitution by offering blanket restoration of voting rights to more than 206,000 Virginia felons just months before Election Day”

            Did not get to see Larry’s post before it was censored but it sounds like it had to do with the history of disenfranchisement of felons. That doesn’t seem to be off topic to me but thanks for the explanation. Good thing we can still cherry pick data and be fallacious in our arguments… was getting worried there for a moment … 😉

          8. CJBova Avatar
            CJBova

            It was deleted for repeated comments that added nothing to the discussion. Scroll back to find more of his references to Jim Crow and disenfranchisement. Disenfranchisement of felons started in 1740, not with Jim Crow.

  9. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    I miss Reed. His long rants were far more entertaining. Wonder what happened to Mr. Reed?

  10. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    No logic to suspend the Right to Vote in the first place. It’s an anathema to our raison d’etre, representation, taxes and all that rot. Even a Death Row prisoner would pay taxes on gedunks.

    Denying the right to a firearm, after discharging their sentences, makes no sense either. As G. Gordon Liddy famously quipped, “It’s not mine. It belongs to the wife. I’m just carrying it because it’s heavy.”

  11. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    To what do you attribute this?

  12. Drive-by Commentator Avatar
    Drive-by Commentator

    Please name for me one Black person who was convicted of 34 felonies yet who remains free to play golf, travel around the country, and daily attack the judge and jury who convicted him.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Every accusation is a confession with the Trump Republicans.

  13. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Whose voters?

    uh yep, and Trump says he’s their people now.

    “I got indicted for nothing, for something that is nothing,” Trump told a black-tie event for Black conservatives in South Carolina ahead of Saturday’s Republican primary. “And a lot of people said that’s why the Black people like me, because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against, and they actually viewed me as I’m being discriminated against. It’s been pretty amazing but possibly, maybe, there’s something there.”

    Courting the mugshot vote…

  14. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Whose voters?

    uh yep, and Trump says he’s their people now.

    “I got indicted for nothing, for something that is nothing,” Trump told a black-tie event for Black conservatives in South Carolina ahead of Saturday’s Republican primary. “And a lot of people said that’s why the Black people like me, because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against, and they actually viewed me as I’m being discriminated against. It’s been pretty amazing but possibly, maybe, there’s something there.”

    Courting the mugshot vote…

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