by Dick Hall-Sizemore

Governor Glenn Youngkin. Photo Credit: Associated Press

Governor Youngkin is talking tough on immigration again, but he is not backing it up.

In his State of the State address, he declared, “If someone is in this country illegally, and they commit a violent crime, they should get a one-way ticket back to where they came from. This should not be controversial.”

It is not controversial. I have not heard of anyone objecting to deporting an illegal immigrant who committed a violent crime. (By the way, I see the Governor is careful to use the correct pronoun.)

Then he goes on to declare, “Virginia is not a sanctuary state. If localities have ‘sanctuary city’ policies and refuse to cooperate with ICE, they should lose state funding—full stop.”

He has made this threat before. How is he backing it up?

First of all, does he mean all state funding? He did not specify. Therefore, if his statement were taken literally, such a locality would lose all its K-12 funding, highway funding, health department funding, etc.

However, let’s give the Governor the benefit of the doubt and assume that he really meant law enforcement funding.

The state funds local law enforcement through the 599 funds, administered by the Department of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) and by paying for sheriffs’ deputies and offsetting some costs of operating jails. These latter two sources of funding are administered by the Compensation Board.

In the budget bill submitted by the Governor, there is no language requiring DCJS to stop distributing funds to any county, city, or town that refuses to cooperate with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Furthermore, there is no language instructing the Comp Board to cut off funding for sheriffs’ offices or jails if they refuse to cooperate with ICE. Finally, there is no general language in the back of the budget bill that would accomplish this objective.

The other means that could be used to implement this policy declaration of the Governor would be separate legislation. There is legislation, HB 2389, introduced by Del. Geary Higgins (R-Loudoun). It is a simple bill. It would a new section that states:

“No locality shall adopt any ordinance, procedure, or policy intended to restrict the enforcement of federal immigration laws.”

This is not quite what the Governor said should be done. First of all, there is no mention of any penalty for noncompliance, such as loss of funding. Second, the proposed Code language would prohibit a locality from restricting ICE. But the Governor said that localities should cooperate with ICE. Under the provisions of the proposed language, a locality could choose not to cooperate while not doing anything to restrict ICE from going about its activities. It is not clear that this provision would have the impact that the Governor talked about in his speech.

The proposed bill does have another provision. Currently, state law authorizes a jail to honor a detainer request from ICE and transfer custody of an illegal immigrant to ICE no more than five days prior to when he would have been released. The proposed legislation would change “may” to “shall”, therefore mandating the honoring of an ICE detainer. This would make a difference, particularly with Fairfax County. The county has been in the forefront of the issue involving ICE detainers. Backed up by opinions of two Attorney Generals, including the present one, Fairfax County takes the position that an ICE detainer is not a binding legal document, merely a request, and will honor only warrants issued by federal magistrates. If the proposed legislation were enacted, the county sheriff would be required to transfer custody to ICE of any illegal immigrant for which ICE had issued a detainer if the ICE officer shows up within five days of the scheduled release of the prisoner. The law would not ensure any “cooperation” beyond transferring custody. It is not clear that it would have a great effect.

In summary, not much cooperation required and no financial penalties as a result of non-cooperation.


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14 responses to “Big Talk; Little Action”

  1. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Excellent appraisal of a political pontification full of sound and fury. Expect plenty arguefare in comments.

  2. (By the way, I see the Governor is careful to use the correct pronoun.)

    An unwarranted and most likely incorrect 'dig' at the governor.

    Grammatically correct or not, "they" has been used for a very long time when discussing a person or persons who might be of either sex. It makes sentences flow more smoothly than using "he/she", especially when speaking.

  3. The law would not ensure any โ€œcooperationโ€ beyond transferring custody. It is not clear that it would have a great effect.

    It does not need to have a greater effect than requiring transfer of custody. As has been pointed out here many times, illegal immigration is a federal issue. Once a locality in Virginia honors an ICE detainer, there is nothing else they need to do.

  4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    โ€œHe has made this threat before. How is he backing it up?โ€

    You expect him to actually do anything to back his rhetoric? Tut tutโ€ฆ he doesnโ€™t need to do thatโ€ฆ he got what he wanted just by building his straw man. Think of the benefits: rabid anti-immigrant culture warriors fed red meat (check), reinforced the immigrants are violent criminals message campaign (check), vilified Democrats for running so-called sanctuary cities (check), reinforce his loyal Trump-yes man image (check). You expect details or implementation? That can only damage his carefully worded message and by extension the cause. Get real! Heโ€™s not going there!!

  5. DJRippert Avatar

    I've been working very hard so far in 2025. I must have missed the fact that the bill cutoff for the 2025 legislative session has already happened. I thought the cutoff was supposed to happen on January 17. But, that was before the Democratic Party led government in Richmond managed to shut off water to the entire city. Given that the session started a week late, could it be possible that the bill cutoff will be postponed?

    As for Fairfax County – what a disgrace (to both the Commonwealth of Virginia and the United States of America). A county full of people sucking at the teat of the federal government who think they shouldn't cooperate with the lawful enforcement of immigration laws passed by Congress.

  6. Clarity77 Avatar

    Good article and confirms why Youngkin never was given serious consideration for any Republican national political office or appointment. Too many ties going back to democrat wokistas at Carlyle including Rube Rubinstein. Which is further confirmed so far by the inaction of his appointees on the UVA BOV.

    IMO unless he can miraculously grow a spine in the next few months he is a one and done. For which he can only blame himself as he was given the clear opportunity by Virginia voters to do better.

  7. LarrytheG Avatar

    Interesting perspective and I think accurate. Youngkin is not a klutz on this approach. He's careful with his words and clearly is maneuvering. We'll see how much he gets and how many more vetoes he does.

    We can be thankful he does not have a GOP majority! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    One does wonder where he might be headed next and I still think he
    wants to be a Senator.

  8. Good article as far as it goes, but where's the soapbox? What should he do that you would support?

    Pretty much everyone here likes to point out what is wrong across the aisle (including myself), but sometimes there are downsides to either choice in a binary decision, such as cutting off funding.

    Choice A – Cutting off Funding:

    It might get some additional compliance, which I think is good. On the other hand, the actual loss of funding could cost lives if it results in a cut to law enforcement in that area. Some innocent individuals might suffer for decisions made by others, and out of their control. I would hate to see that happen.

    Choice B – Not Cutting off Funding:

    Citizens aren't victimized or due to a loss of state funding, but violent illegal immigrants who should have been deported might reoffend due to lack of cooperation with ICE. Additionally, the governor fails to keep his promise to voters.

    I want localities to cooperate with ICE. I believe Governor Youngkin should find a way to get that done, and should be held accountable if it doesn't happen. I'm not sure what is best path forward to accomplish that goal, however.

  9. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Letโ€™s be real. He is better than McAwful would have been, but he is fully in the donโ€™t make the people who hate us mad and will call us bad names camp, so he is afraid to take bold action like a DeSantis (who was stupid to oppose Trump but is nonetheless an excellent governor). His non-action on taking the offensive on abortion enabled the Dems to get their majorities on promising to kill more babies. Think about it. Thatโ€™s the opposition. He should have had billboards and billboard trucks running the windowtothewomb.app continuously and asked when do the Dems agree that killing a baby is wrong?
    How about this for all the law and order Dems who want Trump in jail (when not being shot at through intentional malfeasance) for 700 years for non-crimes, how about jail for all your cities and States that willfully violate federal law, and RICO prosecution, for actual RICO crimes, against all your NGOs?
    This never should have been tolerated and I donโ€™t want to hear another word about โ€œrevenge.โ€ It is not โ€œrevengeโ€ to prosecute people UNDER THE LAW for BREAKING THE LAW, INTENTIONALLY, WILLFULLY, WITH FORESIGHT

  10. LarrytheG Avatar

    ONe thing not clear to me on the detainer issue.

    If someone is arrested – accused of a crime but not yet convicted.

    When does ICE get him? Before or after trial?

  11. "It is not controversial. I have not heard of anyone objecting to deporting an illegal immigrant who committed a violent crime."

    I'm not sure that's true. I wish it were.

  12. Marty Chapman Avatar
    Marty Chapman

    I do not understand why ICE does not obtain a warrant and enter the info in the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) System which is the regular procedure for every other crime where an individual is wanted. NCIC requires timely responses by the entering agency, perhaps that is the issue? In my experience, Federal agencies including the FBI which runs NCIC!, are notoriously slow in responding to queries.

  13. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    If Democrats are politically savvy, they will vote for HB 2389. It would have little, if any, effect and voting for it would deprive the Republicans of a campaign issue.

  14. Marty Chapman Avatar
    Marty Chapman

    Dick, come 1/20 there is a new Sheriff in town. I expect the Gov is content to let Mr. Homan do the heavy lifting. I would not be surprised to see the VSP lending a hand.

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