Seven Years for Shooting a Guy Eight Times. Sounds Like a Pretty Good Deal.
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37 responses to “Seven Years for Shooting a Guy Eight Times. Sounds Like a Pretty Good Deal.”
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Virginia Beach’s Commonwealth’s Attorney is a tough, fair, by the book guy. If his office takes that plea, you can take it to the bank that is all they can prove.
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Practically dynastic. Imagine my surprise that the CA’s surname is the same as the CA’s surname when I was 16. The more things change the more the stay the same. VB was always 3 last names.
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I this case I know him. Served as foreman of one of his grand juries. Saw him in action over an extended period of time. I have nothing but respect for him. We did not indict for anything more than what the evidence we heard had a good chance of proving. That is the way he wanted it. Honorable man.
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Things must be done differently in Virginia Beach now than they were when you served on a grand jury. According to the Virginia Court System database, a grand jury returned a true bill on Jacob Meadows for second degree murder, use of a firearm in the commission of a felony, and conspiracy. All those charges were nolle prossed on 7/11/2022. It seems that the Commonwealth’s attorney’s office got indictments for offenses that didn’t “fit the available evidence.”
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I was on a special grand jury. Can’t discuss it. It was a good while ago. But my observations hold. We filed indictments we thought provable from the facts we uncovered. He plea bargained them down to what he thought was fair and served the public interest. The defendant was black.
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So, he “bargained them down to what he thought was fair and served the public interest.” How is that different from the “permissive prosecution philosophy” you recently condemned C0lette McEachin for?
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One focuses on the victim and the other focuses on the perpetrator.
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I knew Ken by way of the VB sheriff and fishing.
Speaking of VB surnames, if you want to read a great court decision, Judge Kellam wrote the first admiralty decision on the SS Central America. The boy channeled Herman Melville. He went all wide eyed romantic.
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do you “know” the prosecutors that have been vilified as “woke”?
If you knew them also, would your view change?
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What a bunch of dumb @#4#@s! All of that over 4 onces? Get a life! One mason jar. That was worth all of this trouble?
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White privilege? Nah, couldn’t be. That’s a unicorn.
Same crime, different time…
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Probably watched the cops kill daddy. Bet I can find a video of a white kid doing the same to a black kid.
Found one… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAmrSNDrWSg
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White privilege? Really? If I were on a jury, I’d have voted to throw the book at the shooter.
But, then, you would have come back and said that’s white privilege, too, because the victim was white.
There is no fact, or set of facts, or standards of proof that exist that can contradict your proposition. Your white privilege schtick is an unfalsifiable hypothesis, hence, meaningless. It’s pure snark that sheds no light on anything.
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The perception of white privilege is all that’s necessary to do the damage, if not to nonwhite, then self-inflicted…
https://www.bet.com/article/2xyrvj/this-video-of-a-kid-believing-his-whiteness-will-get-him
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methinks if the exact same circumstances occurred in Loudoun or Arlington, the “woke warriors” in BR would be all over it!
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Yep. Exactly Dick’s point…
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If the woke warriors in BR had even a Scintilla of character and honor, they’d have clear and convincing research data to back up their gaslighting and mythological fairy tales…
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Of course the “woke” prosecutors won’t have the benefit of the Sherlock character reference (see above) so clearly it’s different then…
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well, judged and convicted of “woke” prosecutorial conduct… call in the AG to fix…..
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Nice report, Dick. Whether we agree with the resolution or not, the facts and perspective are helpful reminders for all to be cautious about media crime reports. Kudos.
I agree the gun charge should’ve stood, but you’re conflating items. If you overcharge you run the risk of someone going free when they should be behind bars, you only charge for what you can prove.
1) The demographic/sociological factors about the felon you cite could also influence a jury, making an acquittal a real possibility. Just takes one juror. Especially with the sob story about defending himself he was likely to use given:
2) No witnesses, no question the dead guy was also armed, and no proof it wasn’t self defense.
Not arguing it doesn’t stink. But seven years is no walk in the park.
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And, the autopsy showed that the victim was FACING the shooter. Combined with the fact he was known to be armed and all manner of defense creeps in.
Risks on both sides. Jury could have acquitted, or because drugs were involved could have gone all vigilante on him.
BTW, they’re both felons.
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And, the autopsy showed that the victim was FACING the shooter. Combined with the fact he was known to be armed and all manner of defense creeps in.
Risks on both sides. Jury could have acquitted, or because drugs were involved could have gone all vigilante on him.
BTW, they’re both felons.
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“The demographic/sociological factors about the felon you cite could also influence a jury, making an acquittal a real possibility.”
Aka… systemic racism… very good example…
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well, clearly, when black folks do this, it’s culture but when white folks do it… there are “considerations” cuz that culture is different.
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Or, perhaps, systemic ‘classism’.
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More like systemic “culturism”… same end point…
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Eric. Only fair that jury nullification work both ways. 😉
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And they dropped the gun charge with mandatory jail time why? He admitted having the gun, the bullet holes in the dead guy were conclusive, and the gun was used in the commission of a (drug) crime which was also admitted.
Six VA CAs have signed a statement noting they will use prosecutorial discretion not to prosecute women for alleged abortion law violations. A BR article of several weeks ago likened that to anarchy. Takes your pick.
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That is political grandstanding. No legislation has been passed and it looks like legislation proposed by the Governor’s special task force will go after doctors and their licences, not women. https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/newman-says-enforcement-of-abortion-law-could-target-licenses-of-doctors/article_48612a31-1029-5bdf-a7ef-2ce1a761b98d.html
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agree…
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JAB asserted it was anarchy because the statement flouted the law. Most plea deals compromise the possible punishment in a criminal prosecution via prosecutorial discretion. Whether the statements about application of prosecutorial discretion to as-yet-to-be VA abortion laws are grandstanding, they share the same principle. My observation is directed toward the absurd criticism as anarchy, a persistent failing of conservative analysis by its woke warriors.
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I appreciate that DHS has argued for facts and circumstances before making a judgment…
And now can we drop the “systemic racism,” “white privilege” cr@p and look at people like individuals?
As to Commonwealth Attorneys, it matters what each one does. They have a lot of discretion. This is why you should want someone to be honest and fair and not a political hack. One day your family member is a victim and another day you have a family member perp. I have a real problem with “overcharging” – it effectively denies the right to jury trial. Take 3 years or I’ll prosecute you for 100, and usually the defendant does not have the money to get an Alan Dershowitz or a Magic Mike. Yet resources are limited in the sausage factory that is “justice” and plea deals can make a lot of sense.
As the saying goes, when you are the victim, you want justice; when you are the defendant, you want mercy.
Waiting for Kerry Dougherty’s take…..
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