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  1. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Don’t get married. Find a woman who can’t stand you and buy her a house.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      That was a Rod Stewart line wasn't it?

  2. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Don't be a childless cat lady? I guess you could marry and still fit that description….

    Going through a surgical recovery period that would be unthinkable without the love of my life. No need to sell me on the value of a committed life partner. I owe her bigly again.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      The cat lady pejorative generator (current Republican VP candidate) also says that childless people should pay more taxes than those with children…. of course they already do… but he means a higher tax rate.. as a punishment…

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        As an inducement, certainly…Hey, plenty of reason to resent those we once called DINKS.

        1. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          Interesting that Eric believes a higher tax rate is a punishment!

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Pretty clear that JD does (and that is all I said)…. do you…?

          2. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            I regard my yearly struggle with Turbotax as some sort of preview of Hell! Some wise fellow said “a fine is a tax for doing wrong and a tax is fine for doing well”. To the extent that government uses taxes to shape behavior rather than merely raise revenue, I would say higher tax rates can be punitive.

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Pretty sure JD agrees with you. So really the question then is why does JD feel that childless couples should be punished…? I assume you don’t agree with him in this case…

          4. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            I am inclined toward lower, flatter rate with no exemptions.

          5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I prefer the same except I like progressive tax rates.

          6. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            I am willing to accept a progression of say 8%, 15%, and 18% with no exceptions in exchange for a greatly simplified tax code and a much smaller and less intrusive IRS. Note I will throw in a national sales tax to make up the difference.

          7. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I'd be happy with an IRS that can process a deceased person's tax return in less than the approximately 16 months they've taken so far.

            At one point in this seemingly never ending saga of government incompetence, they claimed that the taxpayer was deceased BEFORE the tax year started and could not, therefore, process the return.

            Perhaps not coincidentally, a substantial refund is due on this tax return.

          8. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I'd be happy with an IRS that can process a deceased person's tax return in less than the approximately 16 months they've taken so far.

            At one point in this seemingly never ending saga of government incompetence, they claimed that the taxpayer was deceased BEFORE the tax year started and could not, therefore, process the return.

            Perhaps not coincidentally, a substantial refund is due on this tax return.

          9. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I'd be happy with an IRS that can process a deceased person's tax return in less than the approximately 16 months they've taken so far.

            At one point in this seemingly never ending saga of government incompetence, they claimed that the taxpayer was deceased BEFORE the tax year started and could not, therefore, process the return.

            Perhaps not coincidentally, a substantial refund is due on this tax return.

          10. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I'd be happy with an IRS that can process a deceased person's tax return in less than the approximately 16 months they've taken so far.

            At one point in this seemingly never ending saga of government incompetence, they claimed that the taxpayer was deceased BEFORE the tax year started and could not, therefore, process the return.

            Perhaps not coincidentally, a substantial refund is due on this tax return.

          11. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            OTOH, those that think tax returns ought to be simple, are not dealing with reality very well.

            AND.. there are LOTS of tax benefits for those that have kids – no matter their marital status.

            Beyond that super low tax rates for some investment income as well as inherited property and funds.

            And yep, dealing with a deceased parents tax return is no fun. Once Social Security gets the death notice, things start moving and not in a good way sometimes.

          12. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Oddly enough, Virginia processed the tax returns with no problem. I was even able to fax them the documents they needed after I spoke with someone at the Dept of Taxation to find out how much he’d paid in estimated taxes, and, if I’m remembering right, I was able to call them to confirm that they got those documents.

          13. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I can be harder with the Federal .. we just went through that with my wife’s father. Still dealing with inherited IRAs with new/different rules…

          14. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            You can’t even call anyone at the IRS. The recording just tells you to call back tomorrow.

          15. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            yep. They don’t want to hear from you. Just read their letters and freak out.

          16. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            My sister-in-law lost her husband suddenly about a year ago and was facing similar issues. She called Kaine’s office and they jump in and straightened things out very quickly. If you haven’t, give that a try.

          17. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’ve been emailing back and forth with Wexton’s office over this for close to a year.

          18. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Explain to me how anything Congress does has anything to do with an IRS employee who made a mistake?

          19. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            being able to get in touch with them. Their funding for customer service got cut. You could always engage a CPA or enrolled agent and make some progress on that side, I bet. Not unsympathetic… you gotta do what you
            gotta do but gotta do the options that are available. We’ve been able to get in touch in Fredericksburg.

          20. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Wouldn’t need to get in touch with them if they could do the job accurately?

          21. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Are you with a CPA or Enrolled Agent?

          22. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I had a CPA do the taxes. There was nothing wrong with them. This is entirely something on the IRS side, probably because their 1960s-era mainframe blew a vacuum tube.

          23. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            okay. We had some back and forth also on deceased father-in-law estate.

          24. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Senators tend to have more influence and Kaine’s office has built a reputation in responding to these sort of things effectively. He is also up for reelection so they may be extra helpful these days.

          25. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’ll consider it, if I can’t get a resolution soon.

          26. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I would second that
            In fact, ask the Congress person to help you do it.

          27. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Yes, something like that would be sensible (my progressive rates might be more aggressive but that is the stuff of negotiations). Also treat all income equally regardless of source.

        2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Nope, but nice try… he said “Let's tax the things that are bad…”. Are DINKS (to use your antiquated pejorative) “bad” people? Should they be punished for perhaps being infertile? Are we only going to force those who choose to not have kids to pay more taxes? How will we decide who are the “bad” ones? More Conservative intervention into the doctor/patient relationship? Maybe we can issue different colored stars to easily differentiate the childless…

          Come on, get with it… as JAB says “fight the culture wars”… fight them to win at all costs…

      2. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        The UVA professor was proposing higher taxes to fund earned income tax credit and an expansion of Medicaid. Of course, most conservatives want to eliminate medicaid in order to balance the budget.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          About 50% of all births in the US are paid for by Medicaid and about 50% of all kids in the US are insured by Medicaid.

          What percentage of the kids who receive Medicaid are in two-parent families, I don't know but do Conservatives and Project 2025 want to deny Medicaid to kids whose parents are not married?

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Married men live longer. Seemingly.

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        My dad lived to 81. Spent about the last 30 years of it alone. What killed him was COPD from a smoking habit he kicked a couple years before the divorce.

      2. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        My dad lived to 81. Spent about the last 30 years of it alone. What killed him was COPD from a smoking habit he kicked a couple years before the divorce.

      3. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        My dad lived to 81. Spent about the last 30 years of it alone. What killed him was COPD from a smoking habit he kicked a couple years before the divorce.

      4. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        My dad lived to 81. Spent about the last 30 years of it alone. What killed him was COPD from a smoking habit he kicked a couple years before the divorce.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          I won't give you platitudes but 81 is longer than many and living longer in bad health in a double-edged sword.

          We all die but most never accept that reality until the end.

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I just wonder how much longer he’d lived if he hadn’t made Virginia tobacco farmers richer.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            You never know. At that age, all kinds of things can happen – just stuff wearing out and other stuff that was not totally good to start with.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Picked it up again after the divorce?

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            No, actually. Seems the damage was done by the time he quit smoking. It just took roughly 28 years for it to get bad enough that he needed oxygen.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Wow. That’s unusual. The effects are “usually” reversed after 5 years, but it’s cumulative with other environmental factors, and I suppose, genetics.

            I regret having been an on-again, off-again smoker if nothing else for its demonstrated lack of discipline.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Guy down the street like that. Quit years ago, 20 I think and still has COPD now.

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            What’s the number? Seven? Seven major systems that can suffer breakdown. Obviously, the numero uno is the heart, but Dick Cheney is proof that you don’t need one. Next is the brain, and well, there’s Trump. Political jokes aside, the lungs are under assault from both industrial and natural sources, and adding tobacco is a hard hit. Not clear that our fully contained housing doesn’t contribute too. Growing up, the windows were wide open at least 5 months. Now? Well, the air is “filtered”, but…. “Studies needed”

            Modern times. Now some studies are indicating that acetaminophen, like alcohol, damages the liver at any dose. #4.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            so many factors including genetic… the primary thing you can count on is that you WILL die and living longer with many infirmities is not such a deal wither

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Wait? What? I will? Who says?

          7. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I never started smoking. My grandmother died of lung cancer…2 weeks before I was born. Dad’s side.

  3. how_it_works Avatar
    how_it_works

    Get married..and hope you don't end up divorced and broke.

    1. Marty Chapman Avatar
      Marty Chapman

      no risk, no reward.

      1. Teddy007 Avatar
        Teddy007

        But one of the ways to manage risks is marry later, have fewer children, assortatively mate, and divorce quicker.

        1. Marty Chapman Avatar
          Marty Chapman

          Hopefully, marrying later would reduce the divorce rate.

          1. Teddy007 Avatar
            Teddy007

            It does but one must also be willing to bail out before having children, building up too many assets, or personal danger.

          2. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            Since we have spent the last 20 years or so redefining marriage perhaps every marriage license should include a menu of pre nups including a sunset clause.

          3. Marty Chapman Avatar
            Marty Chapman

            Since we have spent the last 20 years or so redefining marriage perhaps every marriage license should include a menu of pre nups including a sunset clause.

    2. Carter Melton Avatar
      Carter Melton

      "Hope" is not a strategy

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        It is to the women who marry Republicans.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Oh, they get "converted" !

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Or dead from a fixable complicated pregnancy. Blue State Women Survive!

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      or dead from the complications of pregnancy.

  4. VaPragamtist Avatar
    VaPragamtist

    Sure, good marriages come with built-in social and emotional support; financial stability with dual incomes and/or shared expenses, and encouragement for healthier behaviors.

    But those outcomes depend on quality of marriage. I'd also be interested to see how the author accounts for selection bias (healthier, wealthier, and happier individuals may be more likely to get married in the first place, which can skew the data).

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      Then listen to it and read the book…
      All that touched in the discussion.
      In more depth in the book.

    2. Teddy007 Avatar
      Teddy007

      That is exactly what he says. Look at the four groups that get married most often. Of course, the speaker goes not mention risk, assortative mating, diversity, or the multitude of issues with boys and young men.

  5. Carter Melton Avatar
    Carter Melton

    I read the New York Times so I can keep up with what the opposition is thinking.

    One slow day I read their column on personal advice on marriage and dating…..Then I made a mistake of reading the "comments". I never realized how many neurotic, man-hating women there were in the Western Hemisphere.

    Thank you Jesus for leading me to the right decision 58 years ago.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      The NYT is not YOUR opposition.

    2. Not Today Avatar
      Not Today

      And this is why so many men are single and typing on the internet all day long with other men. Weirdos.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      The value of the learner’s permit is indispensable to the successful licensing process.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        so they say…

  6. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    I've been married 3 times. I'm pretty sure it has not made me wealthier, but it has made me wiser. Wish I'd run into the 3rd one first, or maybe the first two were just for practice.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      😬

  7. Not Today Avatar
    Not Today

    Fevered dreams for men. Nightmares for women. The jerk’s wife wanted a trip to Greece. He bought her an egg apron and filmed her reaction. Sicko. https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/my-day-with-the-trad-wife-queen-and-what-i-really-thought-of-her-qmbmmhkp8

    Lines up nicely with every other ‘trad family’ hero… Duggar, Bates, Falwell, Jeub.

  8. GeorgeWallaceandGromit Avatar
    GeorgeWallaceandGromit

    Just another institution ruined by degenerate, hedonistic boomers

  9. Well, here we go again . . . rightwingers sticking their noses into other people's business.

    A person's decision to marry or not marry is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

    A woman's decision to have an abortion is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

    An individual's decision to use or not use contraceptive practices is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

    BUTT OUT.

  10. A "DEI hire"?? Does that stand for Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka?

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