Why So Much Vaccine Hesitancy?

COVID-19 Vaccine doses received -- Virginia
COVID-19 vaccines received — Virginia

by James A. Bacon

Only a month ago, it seemed as if we were putting COVID-19 behind us. With the emergence of the super-virulent Delta strain, all bets are off. Even vaccinated people and virus-resistant school children are being called upon to start wearing masks. I have no set opinions on the proper course of action. Receptive to a wide range of viewpoints, I am in data-gathering mode. Suspecting that many other readers are as well, I am resurrecting a Bacon’s Rebellion feature from earlier in the pandemic in which I regularly posted snapshots of Virginia COVID data.

The graph above highlights the fact that almost everyone who wants a vaccine in Virginia has been able to get it. The state has received 10.2 million doses, of which 87.5% have been administered. The rate at which the state is receiving new vaccine supplies, an indicator of how many people are getting vaccinated, has tailed off to almost nothing. Earlier this year, vaccine supply was the bottleneck. Today, vaccine hesitancy is the problem.


One can debate whether COVID survivors or young children, both of whom are highly resistant to the virus, should be compelled to get the vaccine. Every individual has a different risk profile, and I’m not inclined to dictate to them. However, from a society-wide perspective it is clear as spring water that increasing the percentage of vaccinated people lowers the rate of viral spread.

The question that arises is this: How do public health authorities persuade people to get over their vaccine hesitancy?

To answer that question requires understanding why people choose not to get vaccinated. There is a lot of noise out there — African-Americans remember the Tuskegee syphilis trials and don’t trust the healthcare system; undocumented Hispanics fear being deported and don’t trust the healthcare system; Trump-voting Whites who thought the election was stolen don’t trust the Biden-run healthcare system. Maybe there’s something to those stereotypes. I don’t know. For whatever reason, there can be little doubt that trust is a diminishing attribute of our society.

The Northam administration would be well advised to spend a sliver of its $4.3 billion in federal helicopter dollars to understand the sources of vaccine hesitancy in different segments of the population. It might start by exploring the vaccination variability between racial/ethnic groups.

Percent of the population vaccinated with at least one dose — by race and ethnicity. Source: Virginia Department of Health

The table above shows the significant differences in the vaccination rates between racial/ethnic groups. Native Americans (who are “people of color,” incidentally) may comprise a tiny percentage of Virginia’s population, but they have the highest vaccination rate of all. An inquiry into vaccine hesitancy might inquire why.

Among groups comprising a large percentage of the state’s population, Asians/Pacific Islanders have the highest vaccination rate. That should come as no surprise given the fact that Asians also have higher household incomes on average, higher rates of educational achievement, and lower rates of dysfunctional behavior  — criminality and violence, out-of-wedlock births, sexually transmitted diseases, etc. — compared to other groups. An investigation into vaccine hesitancy might ask what makes Asians more receptive to getting the vaccine.

After all the hand-wringing over systemic racism and the need to target black and “brown” people for outreach, I was surprised to see that Latinos have a higher rate of vaccination than Whites. If the healthcare system is racist against black and brown people, how come so many more brown people have gotten the vaccine?

As for Blacks and Whites, their vaccination rates don’t differ that much. It would be helpful to know if race is the decisive variable — as one might assume if one believes the healthcare system to be systemically racist — or whether income or educational levels within each group is the key factor. I would hypothesize that less educated, lower-income people of any race are more likely to distrust the system and shun the vaccine.

Percent of population vaccinated with at least one dose age. Source: Virginia Department of Health

I found this chart breaking down vaccination rates by age to be surprising. It shows that between 20% and 25% of the most vulnerable segment of society — people over 65 — have not gotten the vaccine. These people are at the greatest risk! How does one explain their hesitancy? Do they watch too much Fox News? Or do they look at COVID-related risks differently than the epidemiologists do?

There’s one more factor I never see mentioned in the media — the difference between sexes.

Percentage of the population vaccinated with at least one dose — by sex.

How do we explain the fact that a significantly higher percentage of females than males have gotten the vaccine? Are men more likely to be stupid, ignorant, redneck Trump voters? Or are women just more risk averse than men?

It strikes me that there is a lot we don’t know about the way people are thinking. We need to cut through the preconceptions of the media and the governing class. When we gain a keener understanding of why people are reluctant, we can do a better job of persuading them to get the shot.

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63 responses to “Why So Much Vaccine Hesitancy?”

  1. sbostian Avatar

    In a free society, individuals should be able to make their own risk/reward calculations and make decisions accordingly. According to a recent MIT study, on COVD mandate skeptics, skeptics are “highly informed, scientifically literate and sophisticated” Additionally we are confronted with a public health establishment that has used lies as a policy instrument. When governments lie as a matter of policy skepticism is unsurprising and prudent. Also, given the unprecedented volume of propaganda accompanying all things COVID perhaps many are not vaccine hesitant, but propaganda resistant. Perhaps vaccination rates would be higher if governments would forsake messaging and coercion which carry a bolshevik or maoist odor.

  2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “If the healthcare system is racist against black and brown people, how come so many more “brown” people have gotten the vaccine?”

    As you noted the issue is not one of supply but lack of demand. Racism is not an issue here at all and I think you know that. Buuutttt, I guess you just can’t help yourself, eh…?

    To the crux of your question, increasing white vaccination rates will give us the biggest bang for the buck. Plenty of examples of the Right undermining the vaccine (particularly with that demographic) in order to rev up the base – even here on BR – certainly on sister station TBE. You should not be surprised with the 53% vaccination figure at all. It fits perfectly what I would expect. Might want to consider some soul searching as a part of your investigation.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      Thanks to proving my argument of using broad brush statements.

      You should probably learn to how to read data before you comment, but alas you won’t.

      PS: Learn what crux means and drop the strawmen.

  3. Buzzerooni Avatar

    Here’s an issue I have that hasn’t been discussed here (or elsewhere that I have seen):

    James A. Bacon wrote:
    “the super-virulent Delta strain”

    Really? What is this assessment based on?
    When you read “super-virulent” don’t you think “super-dangerous”, “super-deadly”?
    If this is the case, why aren’t there any discussions of deaths attributed to the Delta strain and how they compare to the original strain?
    Words do not an emergency make. Where is the data?

    1. WayneS Avatar

      When I read “super-virulent” I thought “tongue in cheek” or even “sarcasm. But, of course, there is always the possibility that I misread it.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    Somehow, this post doesn’t sound much like many of the previous posts on this subject in BR.

    But I do think you got some answers again that sound a lot like some of the prior posts in BR on this subject.

    “Super-virulent”… geeze shades of FEAR PORN!


    How Contagious Is the Delta Variant?
    Because people infected with Delta carry much higher levels of virus, it’s time to rethink our behaviors, scientists say”


    “scientists say” I think WSJ has lost that lovin feeling for “skeptic” !

    1. WayneS Avatar

      Here is an example, from the article, of how the covid fear-mongers twist things around in an effort to make you think you are in more danger than you actually are:

      Can vaccinated people spread the Delta variant?

      The CDC’s Dr. Walensky on Tuesday said that transmission by vaccinated people is possible. “In rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with a Delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others,” she said.

      The question is: “Can vaccinated people spread the Delta variant”?

      The doctor’s statement as published in the WSJ did not answer that question. It answered the following question: “Can vaccinated people who are subsequently infected with the Delta variant spread the Delta variant?”.

      The difference may seem unimportant, but it is not. The real answer to the question is apparently: “No, not unless you have subsequently been infected with the Delta variant. ”

      But the answer “no” does not instill fear, so the reporter avoids coming right out and stating that the risk of a fully vaccinated person spreading the disease to another person is positively miniscule.

      And the fear rolls on…

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        If they do not know with absolute precision yet, ongoing and still playing out? Can we accept that science and the CDC do not know everything that we’d like to know?

        1. WayneS Avatar

          What do we ever know about any disease with absolute precision?

          If absolute precision is the yardstick by which fighting covid is to be measured, then all of us might as well all start wearing full hazard suits 24/7.

          The danger of infection will never be zero, so unless you want to wear a mask and avoid other people for the rest of your life, at some point you will need to decide that the measures taken to fight the virus have reduced the danger of infection to an acceptable level.

          I am at that point. If you are not then good for you.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            It’s not a static thing. It’s evolving. Take your motorcycle. You don’t drive the same way no matter where or when you bike, right?

            If you are in heavy traffic, you likely do things different. If you are biking on dirt , different than asphalt. A bunch of mountainous switchbacks verses table-top interstates.

            It’s the same with disease. There is no fixed and static “truth” by which you can just do the same no matter what. If a virus is changing and evolving, and community spread is also changing, you would need to at the least assess that in your own behavior.

            Thinking of Covid as one thing – defined and not changing is a mistake IMHO.

            The nature of COVID could well be changing in a way that is actually more threatening – increasing your risk, no?

          2. WayneS Avatar

            You have chosen to be obsessed with every minute detail of this disease.

            I am fully vaccinated. I know my risk of being infected. I know my risk of dying with/of the disease if I am infected. I have I chosen not to worry about it any more.

  5. WayneS Avatar

    I am by no means risk averse, not even close. The primary reason I got vaccinated was because I wanted to be able to resume my normal life. If someone tries to take that away from me at this point I will not go down without a fight.

    My attitude towards the covid fear mongers is: I did what you told me to do – I got vaccinated – now leave me the hell alone.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      How dare you critically think for yourself.

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    too many folks want one answer that will not change. We can’t handle the fact that the virus is changing and thus our actions and behaviors must change also. No one like that. We want simple answers that do not change.

  7. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Why are so many apparently rational people not getting these shots?
    So many mysteries….
    Why are so many apparently rational people firmly convinced aliens visit the planet?
    Why are so many apparently rational people sure that angels oversee them in their daily activities, or the devil made them sin?
    Why are so many rational people buying lottery tickets and why does a rational government exploit their mathematical ignorance?
    How can an entire worldwide church be built on the claim that some gold tablets with messages from God were found buried in upstate New York?
    How can people allow themselves to get to 350 pounds or drink themselves senseless every night?
    How come nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste or intelligence of the American people?
    How did we end up with Donald Trump and Joe Biden as our choices, after having Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton as choices before?
    So many mysteries….

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      And yet some folks do manage to make their way through life, making decent decisions and avoiding wackadoodle beliefs and behaviors instead of being “skeptics” about govt, science, climate and covid?

      1. WayneS Avatar

        One man’s “wackadoodle beliefs” are another man’s creed.

        That’s one of the things that make this such an interesting planet to live on.

      2. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        You keep them on the straight and narrow….I will continue to consider “skepticism” preferable to “absolute certainty.”

    2. WayneS Avatar

      I’ve got one: How can anybody enjoy eating head cheese?

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Thanks for the Andrew Zimmern flashback.

    3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      Easy on the Mormons now. Best students in my class over the years and strong families that I admired.

  8. Matt Adams Avatar
    Matt Adams

    Figuring out why people are hesitant isn’t as politically expedient as demonizing your political opposition.

    It’s far easier to broad brush why people aren’t getting jabbed and be done with it.

  9. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    This from someone who has spent weeks and post after post railing against the need for 1) college kids or 2) anyone with a previous COVID case to actually get these shots. You and Ms. Hommer share a prayer book. She shouts and you whisper, but the song is the same. Sorry, Jim. That’s how I see it.

    There are a dozen reasons, and each can find all the confirmation he or she wants from other people, on the Interweb, talk radio, etc. etc. Most who haven’t gotten the shots are never going to, and it is just time to move on and let them deal with the consequences of their own decisions. I am not going to rush to don a mask to make them feel safer, because if they were scared they’d get the shots. This is endemic. There will be waves in 2022, 2023, and on from here. By 2022 there may be anti-viral pills that knock it out but the vaccines will also remain commonplace.

    If it becomes a habit to pull out one of these masks whenever you are having any upper respiratory symptoms, just in case, that might not be a bad outcome. Colds and flu suck too.

    1. I mean seriously. There has been a lot of foaming-at-the-mouth, no-one-can-tell-me-what-to-do-regardless-of-how-much-sense-it-makes, politically-driven commentary here for months. I thought the title was sarcastic at first, but maybe a little self-reflection would help.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        the heck you say……….

      2. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        People are entitled to their beliefs, you cannot foist yours onto them. What you’re doing is again, making a broad brush statement.

        There is stark contrast between being “anti-vaccine” and not wanting to get the
        vaccine”. They are not mutually exclusive positions, which is what has been promoted all over the News.

        1. You miss the point. The point of the article is this why on earth don’t people want to get the vaccine, which is very rich given the incendiary language (remember the call to arms for requiring a vaccine?) and ad hominem attacks that have filled this site for months. Some self-reflection that promoting those views is contributing to the issue is in order.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Again, there is a distinct difference between someone getting a vaccine and it being mandatory.

            It’s also highly ironic you complain about ad hom attacks, while invoking them yourself.

            The answer why people aren’t getting vaccines has very little to do with the words of pundits and the like. It’s a personal decision that each individual must make for themselves.

            You know how to guarantee people don’t get a vaccine, make it mandatory.

          2. No ad hominem there. Factual description.

            I’ll bite since you keep bringing up the point that there’s a difference. There’s only a difference in the political position, which has been intensely amplified here.

            Mumps and other vaccines are mandatory. Where’s the outcry there?

          3. WayneS Avatar

            For the one-thousandth time: The mumps vaccine (and others) have full FDA approval. The Covid vaccine does not.

          4. So, this fall when it’s fully approved, everyone who hides behind this will magically say ok I think requiring C19 vaccination is fine and dandy?


            It’s a political smokescreen.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            If the Government can mandate you get an unapproved vaccine, they can mandate every aspect of your life. They can dictate what you eat, when you eat and anything else you do with your body. After all, anything can be justified as for the good of public health under those grounds.

            Oh and it’ll be January 2022 at best, that’s the drop dead date for the FDA to respond to Pfizer.

          6. Coughing from the smoke, while still seeing avoidance of the point through the smoky haze. So this fall or Jan 22, whichever it is, everyone who hides behind the EUA excuse will happily change their minds when it’s formally approved?

            You know the answer is no.

            It’s quite a steep and slippery slope to go from vaccine in a pandemic to the gov’t mandating every aspect of your life. I don’t want the latter either, but I take a more nuanced view of the reality of moving from the former to the latter.

            At some point, not liking being told what to do runs head long into a larger societal benefit. If you don’t see that societal benefit with legal vaccine requirements by businesses and gov’t, exactly where does the line get drawn? I’m just curious because it starts to feel more like anarchy than libertarianism.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            I haven’t avoided anything, I’m been straight forward with my response and have been such since the beginning.

            I have been vaccinated, that was “my” choice. I’m not going to foist that position onto others, I don’t make their decisions for them.

            I’m not “hiding” being an EUA. The vaccines have been authorized in an emergency use fashion, that can be revoked (i.e. HCQ).

            I don’t know the answer, I’m not a member of the FDA nor do I know anyone that works there. I can presume you don’t either.

            It’s not a slipper slope fallacy, if the Government can mandate that it’s citizens be administered an emergency use authorized vaccine they can dictate anything. All under the guise of public health, not to mention that vaccine Laws are state domain, not the Federal Government. Even the horrible decisions of Jacobson decided that.

            “but I take a more nuanced view of the reality of moving from the former to the latter.”

            Once the Government taketh, you ain’t getting it back.

            “At some point, not liking being told what to do runs head long into a larger societal benefit.”

            Thanks for proving my point, when your threshold for action it’s “common good” whoever is in power determines what the “common good” is and will be.

            “If you don’t see that societal benefit with legal vaccine requirements by businesses and gov’t, exactly where does the line get drawn?”

            Strawman, clearly you’ve lost the argument and should just stop attempting to flail like a bird.

            “I’m just curious because it starts to feel more like anarchy than libertarianism.”

            Clearly you are not aware of the principles of either and should refrain from comment.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar

            The fact that millions of people have actually gotten the vaccine with no more and probably fewer adverse reactions that other “approved” vaccines really makes “approval” a mostly moot formal thing.

            It’s being used as more of an excuse than real concern for it’s safety.

            And it’s but one of several excuses that the anti-vaxxers cite so not likely they’ll change their minds even when it is approved.

            What’s the actual broader point of the opposition? It’s not really “concern” for safety and efficacy. It’s political.

          9. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “There has been a lot of foaming-at-the-mouth, no-one-can-tell-me-what-to-do-regardless-of-how-much-sense-it-makes, politically-driven commentary”

            Umm that’s an ad hom attack by any measure of the term.

            MMR as with other vaccinations have received their full FDA approval and grant waivers.

            If you can’t determine the difference between mandatory (forced vaccination) vs of your own volition, you’re of no use.

          10. Go back and read the articles and comments and show me that description is not factual.

            But I do do not intend that to be a broad statement regarding everyone who speaks out against the vaccine.

          11. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Rereading the comments and articles doesn’t change that you used an ad hom attack and complained about them.

            “But I do do not intend that to be a broad statement regarding everyone who speaks out against the vaccine.”

            Still not understanding the difference between speaking out against the vaccine as “mandatory” and speaking out of it from a voice of ignorance.

          12. WayneS Avatar

            You’ll still get a call to arms if you call for requiring people to get the vaccine now. But when was that proposed?

          13. In a guest post about UVA requiring students to get vaccinated.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      “Most who haven’t gotten the shots are never going to, and it is just time to move on and let them deal with the consequences of their own decisions.”

      Exactly right.

      I can’t personally justify forcing people to get vaccinated but I’m not interested in wearing a mask to safeguard those who don’t care to get vaccinated.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Is your current position consistent with your earlier positions that I “think” you advocated having the young and healthy go about business and the older and sicker stay home? Don’t the anti-vaxxer types still feel they are not vulnerable and it’s their right to not get vaccinated? Do you support their position that it is their “right” to not be vaccinated?

  10. Publius Avatar

    Let me poke the coals of the fire…
    There are plenty of reasons for hesitancy.
    And, having been lied to or misled, people get rightly suspicious.
    The more pushing that people must get vaccinated, people get more resistant.
    Try persuasion.
    And, after you have tried persuasion, and you fail to succeed in converting the hesitant, accept that you aren’t God and maybe, possibly, that person could be right.
    Why hesitancy?
    Covid appears for most people to be no more lethal than flu – maybe less.
    A belief that natural immunity is better than this “vaccine.”
    This is not a normal vaccine.
    mRNA is new.
    The “vaccine” is unapproved.
    Suspicion of the experts (this is not irrational).
    Concerns about where the spike protein resides post-vax.
    The WAY higher numbers on the VAERS.
    Requiring masking when the Covid virus particles are 20 times smaller than the openings of the masks and the misuse and reuse of filthy masks – it’s theater.
    Believe that fetal stem cells may be part of the genesis of the vax (I don’t know this – I have only heard concerns from some Catholic sites)
    The CDC’s recent announcement that it will pull the PCR testing on Dec 31 for testing that can distinguish between Covid and flu (so THAT”S where flu season went!)
    And, finally, it is a Constitutional, Jeffersonian, natural liberty right – it is why all medical codes say the patient has the right to refuse medical treatment and it is why in the still slightly sane world we lived in prior to Covid and OrangeManBad, all vax requirements had medical and religious exemptions…AND NO ONE CARED!

  11. Merchantseamen Avatar

    I have not had the Flu shot since I was 55 years old. I have stiffed armed the shingles, pneumonia vaccines. Today I was asked by a friend if I had gotten the covid shot. When I said no. I was immediately set upon by him and another friend. I listened to abuse then I stated. Did I say I would note et he vaccine? When I feel the time is right I will get it. I pointed it out that what are you worried about? You both have been jabbed. But you may give it to us was the response. You need to be tested they stated. I said you would deny me work shopping and living my life. I guess I need to wear a Star of David also. I will see them again Saturday. I will see what kind of tension is in the air. If set upon again. Then the friendships are terminated for awhile I guess.

  12. Here’s another way to segment the data from WSJ and offer some insight. White Evangelicals Resist Covid-19 Vaccine Most Among Religious Groups

    Even Franklin Graham says this is a political issue.

    1. Publius Avatar

      Maybe for the religious it is a religious issue, and those who object make it political because for them everything is political.
      If you want to understand the divisions, some people believe God is in charge and the rest believe Man is in charge. Many of the divisions can be sorted along those lines as the worldview guides the decisions.

      1. That could be, but I’d reverse the order. It was political first, now it’s firmly religious. Otherwise, you’d expect other religious groups to poll in a similar fashion.

        1. Publius Avatar

          No… just like you can’t group people and think of them as a monolith, you can’t do the same with religious people. It’s like Biden saying if you don’t vote for him, you ain’t black. “Religious” people (really a meaningless generalization – what the h3!! does that mean?) can vary quite a bit. I could start a fight over vaxing at a church potluck supper.
          Believe it or not ARL, and I think you don’t and won’t, there are people for whom their highest duty is not to the State. Generally, that group is the evil, pesky evangelical Christians, which I think the most accurate description is not evangelicals, or Baptists, etc, but “Christ followers.”
          For such people, it is Jesus first…and guess what? They do have different opinions! They just agree on one very big principle.

          1. I’ll agree on danger of stereotyping, but the point of the article is why are people hesitant. I’m offering that a specific — and large — demographic, i.e., white evangelicals, are politically driven in their hesitancy. You, I believe, chalk it up to God first, which I would think would drive a more communal and societal, rather than individualistic, view, but ok.

            I’ll offer some data that at least shows correlation. White evangelicals from the WSJ article are clearly a very hesitant group. Jews are not. White evangelicals skew heavily towards Trump. Jews towards Biden. Catholics are split politically but are closer to the Jewish view on vaccine. Here’s one source but there are many online. I intentionally chose a religious-based site. https://churchleaders.com/news/385086-exit-polls-white-evangelicals-overwhelmingly-voted-for-trump-again.html

            Can you not admit that for a large portion of a large demographic segment that politics may be at the core of it?

          2. Publius Avatar

            No. Correlation does not equal causation.
            The politics are informed by the political. Chicken or the egg!
            As church attendance increases, the percentage with “conservative” beliefs increases. But this does not hold true for every single person, and the reason those dirty, unwashed, Bible-thumping evangelicals think the way they do starts with a Biblical worldview.
            They just want Leftists to leave them alone. But they won’t…

        2. WayneS Avatar

          “Otherwise, you’d expect other religious groups to poll in a similar fashion.”

          Only if all religious beliefs are the same, or even similar.

  13. William Cover Avatar
    William Cover

    I am a scientist and am fully vaccinated with the mRNA formula. If you want more people to get the vaccine the following needs to happen:
    1. The FDA has to grant full approval of the vaccine and publish the effectiveness rate. It is still an emergency use authorization. (experiment)
    2. Provide accurate information on COVD treatments if someone gets infected so they can make an informed decision on taking their chances.
    3. Define who has product liability if someone has an adverse reaction. There are a significant number of excipients in the formulations. If I am vaccinated am I assuming all the risk? If I have a reaction who will support my family?
    4. Come clean about the history of adenovirus based vaccines and apologize for adenovirus based vaccines being released into the American population. I recommended to my family and friends not to take the adenovirus based vaccines.
    5. Educate the public on the safety of the mRNA vaccines and let the American people know who the scientists were that developed the technology behind the scenes for unknown pandemics. These vaccines, if the safety and efficacy data continues positive is a demonstration of American leadership in science and technology funded by the American taxpayer. American innovation is alive and well hidden from the public.
    6. Release data on the origin of the virus and close the discussion on the Wuhan laboratory and whether or not there are still bioweapons labs in China, Russia, etc.. Please debunk the WHO “spontaneous generation theory” from the fish market in Wuhan. Start by publicizing the 1971 smallpox outbreak associated with Vozrozhdeniye Island, an island in the western part of the Aral Sea (it is an environmental disaster).

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Useful contribution, thank you. Good luck on #6. I agree that the mRNA is a superior approach, not but sure the cost-benefit on the adenovirus approach is negative. Not my area….

  14. energyNOW_Fan Avatar

    Dr Scott Gottleib said tonite he thinks the high COVID states may be peaking next couple weeks, and those of us in the Northeast will start to see some later peak as the delta variant moves in here from the other areas.

  15. Deborah Hommer Avatar
    Deborah Hommer

    I can tell you exactly why people are hesitant – and this is by no means comprehensive – I have a pdf with links if you’re sincerely interested:

    Ages 0-19: 99.997%
    Ages 20-49: 99.98%
    Ages 50-69: 99.5%
    Ages 70+: 94.6%

    This means you’re more likely to die from high blood pressure, high cholesterol or cardiovascular problems than covid – remember there is a difference from dying from covid and dying with covid – and we really can’t determine that due to both the WHO and the CDC have recalled the PRC test due to its massive failure of false positives and negatives, which was what was determining covid in the first place, which begs the question: Why not mandate healthy food, exercise, sun if you really cared about health? It’s not about health. For some reason these people first drummed deaths, deaths, deaths, then cases, cases, cases, now vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccine? What in the world for? Covid has not proved to be deathly. There’s no pandemic if you look at the original meaning of the word, people are not dying all over the place from covid. Do some research of the stats yourself. Why are they desperate to jab everyone? And it’s not a vaccine under the true meaning of the word. It’s gene therapy which alters your DNA and RNA. Did they inform you of that? Of course not. But if you had looked into it, you may not have signed up for this experiment.

    This is an experimental jab, and those who take it are part of the experiment. Nuremberg Code – can’t be required to be experimented on.
    Both Dr. Malone (an inventor of the mRNA technology) and Dr. Yeadon (former head of Pfizer) are warning against this vaccine.

    More injuries from this jab than 30 years of vaccine injuries. Go research VAERS yourself.

    Rapid Test Recalled
    We cannot trust the rapid test anymore according to the FDA: “The FDA has identified this as a Class I recall, the most serious type of recall. Use of these devices may cause serious injuries or death. … “The performance characteristics of the test have not been adequately established, presenting a risk of false results.”

    Infections in Fully Vaccinated
    “CDC Identifies only 10,000 COVID-19 Infections in Fully Vaccinated, but Likely an UnderCount.”
    “mRNA Vaccine Inventor Shares Viral Thread Showing CVD Surge In Most-Vaxxed Countries.” ”Dr. Robert Malone, a pioneer in the field of mRNA vaccines, shared a viral Twitter thread on Friday which lays out a disturbing trend; the most-vaccinated countries in the world are experiencing a surge in COVID-19 cases, while the least-vaccinated countries are not.”

    Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’

    CDC website: “In conclusion, we describe a VOC Gamma COVID-19 outbreak with a strikingly high attack rate among persons fully vaccinated with BNT162b2 vaccine.”

    “NBC News, citing unnamed officials aware of the decision, reported it comes after new data suggests vaccinated individuals could have higher levels of virus and infect others amid the surge of cases driven by the delta variant of the coronavirus.”

    “Las Vegas Covid-19 Outbreak Included Vaccinated Hospital Workers, Mostly With Delta Variant.”

    Experimental Vaccine Deaths and Serious Injuries

    These are experimental vaccines (those that are getting the vaccine now are part of the experiment). Covid-19 “Experimental” Vaccines Facts

    “VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 491,218 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 11,405 deaths and 48,385 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 16, 2021.”

    Here’s a 15-minute video that illustrates some of the issues with this vaccine. https://bnt-cdn.b-cdn.net/upload/videos/2021/05/HRWyepyFlDalZiehQVNK_15_7152c5fcfda0dd40fc3e5baa8d9d5b62_video_720p_converted.mp4

    Here are the sources for the video.

    “AFLDS Files Lawsuit Seeking Immediate Injunctive Relief Revoking the Emergency Use of Covid-19 Vaccines Base on Disturbing New Mortality Data.” “As of July 9th, reported deaths in VAERS totaled 10,991. Of those 4,593 were within 72 hours of vaccination. The CMS whistleblower has made a sworn statement that the actual number of deaths are conservatively five-times higher, meaning as of this date we are approaching at least 55,000 vaccine related deaths.”

    Pfizer Skipped Critical Testing and Cut Corners on Quality Standards, Documents Reveal.”

    Nobel Laureate Luc Montagnier [prominant virologist] – Warns Covid Vaccine May Lead to ‘Neurodegenerative Illness’ (Video)

    Indicators of Fraud
    “Covid-19 Vaccines: Dr. Fauci’s Team May Personally Profit.

    “CDC Exposed: Inflated Covid Deaths By 1600% Throughout The Election, “Violated Multiple Federal Laws” Peer-Reviewed Study Finds…State, Local Governments Must Act.”

    “Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.”

    EUA – Not Approved by FDA
    Covid-19 vaccines are not approved by the FDA. The Covid-19 vaccines are only approved under an Emergency Use Authorization, for investigational use only. Covid-19 vaccines lack requisite studies and are not approved medical treatment. The FDA’s guidance on emergency use authorization of medical products requires the FDA to “ensure that recipients are informed to the extent practicable given the applicable circumstances … That they have the option to accept or refuse the EUA product …”

    Title 21, Section 360bbb-3 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the “FD&C Act”) vests the Secretary of Health and Human Services with the permissive authority to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (“EUAs”) providing that appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed:
    that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;
    of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
    of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks. 1

    The right to avoid the imposition of human experimentation is fundamental, rooted in the Nuremberg Code of 1947, has been ratified by the 1964 Declaration of Helsinki, and further codified in the United States Code of Federal Regulations. In addition to the United States regarding itself as bound by these provisions, these principles were adopted by the FDA in its regulations requiring the informed consent of human subjects for medical research. It is unlawful to conduct medical research, even in the case of an emergency, unless steps are taken to secure informed consent of all participants.

    The following Emergency Use Authorizations have been issued for Covid-19 vaccinations:

    12/11/20 Moderna – FDA issued an EUA for emergency use of the Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccine for recipients 16 years of age or older.

    12/18/20 Pfizer/BioNTech – FDA issued an EUA for emergency use of the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine for recipients 18 years of age or older.

    2/27/21 Johnson & Johnson – FDA issued an EUA for emergency use of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine (aka Janssen vaccine) for recipients 18 years of age or older.

    Each of the above EUAs was issued in conjunction with a similar Fact Sheet from the FDA. For example, the Janssen fact sheet contains the following notice:

    As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving the Janssen Covid-19 Vaccine, including:

    FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Janssen Covid-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA approved vaccine.

    The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.

    The significant known and potential risks and benefits of the Janssen Covid-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown.

    Clearly, any attempt to force anyone to take a Covid-19 vaccine is a violation of federal law and the conditions under which the Covid-19 vaccine has been authorized for use. The law is clear, experimental medical treatment cannot be mandated.

    Businesses are not shielded from liability with experimental agents.
    Under the 2005 PREP Act enacted by Congress, pharmaceutical companies that manufacture EUA vaccines are shielded from liability related to injuries and damages caused by their experimental agents. However, any employer, public school, or any other entity or person who mandates experimental vaccines on any human being is not protected from liability for any resulting harm. While vaccine manufacturers may be shielded from liability, your institution is not protected, and neither are you.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      FYI – When your comment contains almost twice as many words as the original article, people are unlikely to read it, especially when you’ve already posted it, in its entirety, to the comment section of at least two other articles.

      1. Publius Avatar

        And again your point is… TLDR?
        That may be valid, but it is not substantive.

  16. Deborah Hommer Avatar
    Deborah Hommer

    Dr. Malone, invented of mRNA, “indicates that people who have taken the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are at greater risk of getting Covid than someone who is not vaccinated. … New data suggests that fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting COVID, but could be carrying higher levels of virus than previously understood, facilitating spread, my NBC News colleagues are reporting. New indoor masking guidance expected today.
    Dr. Malone has warned of this risk for several months. What are we to do? Malone says that instead of relying on the flawed vaccines, Doctors should use drugs for treating Covid that have proved effective, such as Ivermectin (more about that following the video), is neutralizing Covid:”

    Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of the vaccine n the first place?


    1. WayneS Avatar

      Dr. Malone did not invent mRNA vaccines. He’s entitled to his opinion. but he did not invent mRNA.

      1. Publius Avatar

        Hmmm… and your point? Are you quibbling? Should she have said he was the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology?
        Is his wife lying when she claims he is the inventor?

  17. Deborah Hommer Avatar
    Deborah Hommer

    Okay, last one: Here’s the total irony of it all – this colloquy:

    Truth in this irony. 😂😂

    CDC in a nutshell 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
    ME: CDC, should I get poke if I already had Covid?
    CDC: “Yes, you should be poked regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.
    ME: Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does poke-induced immunity last?
    CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are poked.”
    ME: Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the poke was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long poke immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the poke immunity better than my natural immunity?
    CDC: …
    ME: Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?
    CDC: Yes.
    NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.”
    ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity?
    CDC: Possibly. You never know.
    ME: Okay. If I get the poke, does that mean I won’t get sick?
    BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are poked people.
    ME: CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the poke?
    CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.
    ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases?
    CDC: That’s right.
    ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the poke, how is it helping me?
    CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.
    ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.
    CDC: We don’t know “exactly.”
    ME: Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?
    CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question.
    ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the poke, is there any reason I should get it?
    CDC: Yes, for the collective.
    ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?
    CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.
    ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else?
    CDC: Yes.
    ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else?
    CDC: Yes.
    ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the poke?
    CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unpoked, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the pokes protection, putting all poked people at risk.
    ME: So the poke stops the virus from mutating?
    CDC: No.
    ME: So it can still mutate in poked people?
    CDC: Yes.
    ME: This seems confusing. If the poke doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting poked help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the poke?
    CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unpoked, you pose a threat to poked people.
    ME: But what KIND of threat??
    CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.
    ME: My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the poke doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying poked people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the poke just by running into an unpoked person! Which is it??
    CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now.
    ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this.
    copied and pasted

  18. StarboardLift Avatar

    “It shows that between 20% and 25% of the most vulnerable segment of society — people over 65 — have not gotten the vaccine. These people are at the greatest risk! How does one explain their hesitancy?” I think that docs would tell you that a chunk of the unvaccinated over 65 are ineligible. In that 20-25% are people who have either had COVID and survived, or have conditions which make the jab a bad choice.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I wonder if these are rural Virginia.

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