COVID Is Still News

By Dick Hall-Sizemore

I seem to recall that contributors and comments on this blog often said that “come November 4, COVID will no longer be a big news item.” The implication, of course, was that the main national news organizations were hyping the COVID issue in order to damage the Trump administration.

Well, it is now November 9, almost one week after the election and Biden has been declared the winner. Let’s check on how COVID is being covered.

Washington Post

  • Print edition–lead story:  Biden Moves Fast on Virus and Economy.  Additional story:  Latest COVID surge is breaking records
  • website, 5:00 a.m. today — President-elect Biden announces coronavirus task force made up of physicians and health experts

New York Times 

  • Front page, print edition: “Terrifying” Surge Awaits a New Administration, sub-head: U.S. Virus Cases Pass 10 Million as Colder Weather Looms

Richmond Times-Dispatch

  • Front Page:  More Chesterfield Students to Return Amid Staff Concern
  • Inside on National News page:  Nursing Home COVID-19 Cases Rise Fourfold in Surge States

Looks like it is still big news, election or no election.

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  1. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    Hmm, Dow futures in the four digit range. For the rest of his life Trump will be convinced that today’s vaccine news could have come a week earlier….and I can’t blame him. He will never get the credit he deserves for this.

    What I always said would change is the attitude toward school closures, economic shutdowns, and the vaccine. And I stand by that prediction. Biden will soon be saying send the kids to school, don’t shut down the economy, and take the vaccine. With his cheerleaders in the media behind him.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar

      “He will never get the credit he deserves for this.”

      Yeah, but nevertheless, Volkswagen is a good car too.

      1. Steve Haner Avatar
        Steve Haner

        Mary Jo Kopechne would be alive today if Teddy had one…Funniest thing in the history of Mad Magazine.

        How many weeks do we give the Biden Administration to solve this problem? I figure March 1 and the national media will proclaim him the savior, about six weeks after inauguration…

        1. Nancy_Naive Avatar

          How does one take credit for doing nothing?

          “A Volkswagen will definitey float, but they will not float indefinitely.”

          The funniest thing? Hardly. Mad’s history is packed with equally funny stuff. But it is subjective.

    2. Much has changed since the election. Apparently it’s now okay to report about President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed in positive terms. This wouldn’t have been aired before the election.

      “While the rest of the country has been counting votes, an Army general named Gus Perna has been counting doses of vaccine. He is in charge of Operation Warp Speed, the catchy title given to the crash program to inoculate 300 million Americans against the coronavirus by next spring. For those of you longing to reclaim a semblance of your previous life, it may not seem all that speedy, but it is compared to the five to ten years it usually takes to field a new vaccine. Once approved, it will not be a silver bullet. Just as with the annual flu shot, some of us will still get sick. But it should make enough people immune so that the virus runs out of places to go. That would give this country what it badly needs right now – a shot in the arm.”

      This is worth watching.

  2. Covid is bogus. One day, perhaps we will have real data and not non-stop propaganda obfuscating “the science.” There is a difference between dying “from Covid” and dying “with Covid.” The Corona virus first appeared around 2002. The VCU people in February weren’t terrified of it prior to our betters bringing it to panic level. And one day, we will have a more accurate accounting of the “costs” associated with the lockdowns and I am pretty sure they will far outweigh the “benefits.”
    Did you know Dr. St. Fau(x)ci was in charge of finding an AIDS vaccine about 40 years ago and the “gay community” was not exactly a fan of the good Dr. St? How’s that AIDS vaccine coming?
    So it looks like we have a Covid vaccine in less than a year? And of course, it comes out after the election… And the market futures are up about 1,700 points? Do Dems believe in vaccines again? Or is Covid still smart enough to only be a super spreader event when connected with Orange Man? “Mostly peaceful protests” and Biden “victory” celebrations are safe!
    Actually, they are all safe in the sane world we used to live in (except for the “mostly peaceful” part). How did Big 10 and SEC football not eradicate America previously? In the fall of every year, 12 events with at least 100,000 people all mingling in close quarters for a dozen Saturdays during the Fall flu season. The before and after game stuff. The frat parties. Danger everywhere! Do what your Mom said – don’t cough on people, wash your hands, and if sick, stay home. There – didn’t cost trillions to “fix.”
    But people will die! Yes, people die every day. Everyone on this board will die one day. So, as we now know from “the science,” Covid is very bad for old people and that is usually as a complicating factor with co-morbities. Do your best to not have a self-inflicted co-morbidity, but we all don’t have human agency in all those factors. So, keep it away from old people, which is hard to do because it is a virus. A virus is going to virus. It is what it does. But when it has run through the population, you have herd immunity and the body magically develops resistance to future strains. Really an amazing thing. So the figure to look for is “excess” deaths. Let’s assume when the smoke clears, that there are 50,000 excess deaths among the elderly which, according to actuarial tables “cost” 150,000 years. Now measure the cost against the other 300 million people in the US. How many years of life were lost from suicides, bankruptcies, drinking, delayed diagnoses?
    The colleges and schools should be open – period. Science says so. But teacher unions (OK, in VA, “associations”) say no and we know who calls that tune. Oh, yeah – and don’t panic. But when Joe says “don’t panic” (or his animatron does), it will be totally OK.

    1. Steve Haner Avatar
      Steve Haner

      Bogus? Whatever gets you through the night….my cardiologist confirmed Wednesday I don’t want a dose of this sucker….so I’m eager for the vaccine.

      1. Yes, your cardiologist, which would indicate one of the specific risk factors which can make Covid deadly. And your evidence is “anecdotal.” True for you doesn’t make it true for everyone. Meanwhile, for the vast, vast majority of people Covid is much like a seasonal flu. We are Americans. We figure out things. Locking down the country will be proved to have been the greatest self-inflicted wound on the country ever.

        1. Steve Haner Avatar
          Steve Haner

          You clearly are not a regular reader because I was arguing against the lockdowns in March, saying don’t kill the economy just to protect people like me. But you go too far in one direction, while DJ, Nancy Naive and others go too far in the other direction.

          1. I am new and have not figured out everybody. Don’t think I am too far one direction, but am willing to follow real science, not politicized panic everywhere. I do look forward to real numbers based on observation and not massaged for a political point. Based on history and the 1918 and 1968 epidemics and modern medicine, I think this has been way overdone. Meanwhile, I hope you stay safe. Has your cardiologist prescribed anything prophylactically like HCQ or Vitamin D?

          2. Steve Haner Avatar
            Steve Haner

            There’s quinine in G&Ts….

          3. Nancy_Naive Avatar

            What a coincidence, Steve… I’m cured!

            Fever Tree tonic. Almost as expensive as the gin, but well worth it. Their ginger beer, not so much. Goya is the best there.

            I just keep waiting for coconut smell and taste to return.

    2. “The Corona virus first appeared around 2002.”

      Actually, human corona viruses were first discovered in the 1960s. But that is not relevant to today. Covid-19 is A corona virus, it is not THE corona virus. And it is a particularly nasty corona virus, especially for the old and infirm.

      I do not think Covid-19 is as great a threat as has been portrayed in many (most?) media outlets, but I most definitely do not consider it “bogus”.

      1. The panic is bogus. The strain is new and there has been way too great reaction, and not all “science” based.

  3. Wow, we have had Covid since 2002! Great catch, Publius.

  4. Atlas Rand Avatar
    Atlas Rand

    Biden’s announced plans sound oddly familiar: wear masks, social distance, limit gatherings…but he will promote a science first message? Not sure how this differs from what we’re already doing..

    But the party of peace and truth is in power now! If Kamala Harris is talking she’s lying, but voters chose truth and “science “ by choosing her. The same party that can’t tell the difference between men and women and are still trying to convince us that men have periods too. Scientifically impossible, (since men don’t have a uterus), but party of science and al that.

    1. djrippert Avatar

      Yep, either you lockdown or you don’t. Slow Joe can “listen to science” until his hearing aids malfunction but at the end of the day either you lockdown or you don’t.

      My guess is that Batty Biden will do much the same as Trump did – declare the matter to be a state-by-state issue and sit back and let the governors decide what to do. From there he will be hailed as a “science-centric” genius of a chief executive by the left.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        At the very least, the leader of the country will be providing an example of following the advice of experts such wearing a mask and practicing social distancing.

    2. The Obama/Biden Administration totally botched H1N1 and left the U.S. unprepared for COVID-19.

      “The H1N1 influenza pandemic of 2009 triggered the largest deployment in U.S. history of the Strategic National Stockpile, the federal government’s last-resort cache of drugs and medical supplies. The stockpile distributed 85 million N95 respirators — fitted face masks that block most airborne particles — along with millions of other masks, gowns and gloves.”

      “The trade group for manufacturers of personal protective equipment in mid-2009 urged “immediate action” to restock N95 masks. The International Safety Equipment Association warned of “significant shortages” if another pandemic caused demand for masks to surge.”

      “In hindsight, it appears to be shortsighted,” said Gerrit Bakker, ASTHO senior director of public health preparedness. “It’s an issue of, ‘Will there be any (masks) left when they get to me? And if the stockpile won’t have enough for my state, what am I going to do?’ ”

      But in an amazing feat of propaganda, they’ve convinced much of the country that they did a marvelous job and would have handled COVID-19 such that nobody would have died. (What other conclusion can one draw when comments are made that every COVID-19 related death is somehow Donald Trump’s fault.)

  5. djrippert Avatar

    Yep. Virginia just saw its biggest case day ever. No, it’s not just more testing.

    “Across Virginia, cases have totaled more than 1,000 for 12 straight days, contributing to a recent increase in the seven-day average. A month ago on Oct. 7, the seven-day average was 774.’

    Testing has not increased 50% since Oct 7.

    The disease is less lethal mostly because the most at risk are being strongly protected. However, as the cases surge so will hospitalizations, ICU admissions and, eventually, deaths. The fatality rater may never be what is was in the spring but we’re experiencing a record number of cases and that will eventually lead to an elevated death rate.

    Meanwhile, our governor says and does nothing. He is moonwalking his way through this surge like he moonwalked his way through pathetically underperforming testing in the spring. He has a wide variety of options to consider … from European style lockdowns to South Dakota style non-intervention. Yet as cases surge the governor uses his so-called Coronavirus update press conferences to talk about court cases around Confederate statues. He recites some statistics about the historical rates of cases in different health regions in Virginia but pointedly refuses to discuss the future. Why should he? The lefties and plantation elite have excused everything Northam from an endless series of missteps and mistakes. They have excused Herring of racist behavior and Fairfax of being twice credibly accused of forcible rape. Accountability is for others and for elsewhere.

    What will Northam do when the obvious impact of this surge becomes so apparent even he can see it through the caked on shoe polish around his eyes? Just say, “stay the course” and wait for Slow Joe to ramp up whatever hallucination of plan he intends to unveil? Lockdown the state? Or maybe he’ll just keep talking about Confederate statues until he leaves office.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Northam can’t win with you . There are a number of restrictions in place, such as no gathering of more than 50 people, restaurants operating at half capacity, closed bars, requirements that employees serving the public wear masks, etc. If he reimposed the restrictions in place last summer, i.e. no unnecessary travel, you would be among the first to howl.

      1. djrippert Avatar

        Northam can win with me by being upfront, forward looking and transparent. He is none of those things. The surge started in Europe and has been working through the US for the last six weeks. Various states have done various things. DC, for example, has restrictions and testing requirements for out of state visitors (with Maryland and Virginia exempted). Did Northam consider this? What level of outbreak would be required for him to consider that act? Despite hard lockdowns Europe has generally left schools open. Virginia is a mess with schools. No rhyme or reason as to why some districts are full time in-person, hybrid or full time distance. Meanwhile, Northam knows full well that it is less affluent children who suffer the most from distance learning – frequently minorities. What is Northam’s plan to reopen public schools in places like Richmond? Or anywhere else for that matter?

        The left pissed and moaned about how Trump’s approach was incompetent, far less intelligent than Europe’s. Maybe so. But where is the criticism of Ralph “The COVID Mime” Northam? He has no plan whatsoever.

        As for the restrictions that are in place … Virginia just broke the all-time COVID case record. If containing the virus was the goal then those restrictions are obviously not working. What part of “Virginia sets new record for COVID cases” is hard for Northam to understand? If restrictions don’t matter, Trump was essentially right and the Europeans are wrong – why is it so hard for Northam to say that?

        He wastes his bi-weekly C OVID updates talking about Confederate statues and court cases while his state hits new all-time COVID records. Sorry, but that’s just plain incompetent.

  6. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead V

    Biden declared winner? Perhaps by the media. I haven’t seen any certified election results yet. Each state sets a no later than date to certify election results. This can range from 11/10 to 12/3.

    1. They haven’t even finish counting ballots everywhere. What happened to ever vote matters? It was the Democrats that insisted on postponing many of these deadlines.

      Then there’s canvasing, final vote counts, certification. Etc.

      There will also be recounts in several states because the outcome was so close.

      Then there are those pesky legal issues.

      This article is quite good if you have not already read it. It’s informative and even entertaining – references Monty Python.

      “Jonathan Turley: America should welcome review for close counts”

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead V

        Thanks for sharing that. No matter what one half of this country is not going to be very happy for a good while.

      2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        See my comment below.

  7. Here is a ray of sunshine. Thomas Jefferson Health District ( Central Va) reports seven day positivity rate of 1.8%.

  8. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Emery one was happy to declare a winner on election night ,no less, in 2016. That was way before states certified the votes. Why should it be different this year?

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead V

      The allegations of election fraud cast a cloud over the results. Certified results bring legitimacy to results.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        Allegations without a shred of evidence. The Trump campaign went to court trying to stop the count because, alledgely, they were not allowed to observe. When pressed by the judge, they admitted they had “nonzero” number of observers.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          While the Trump Campaigns complaints are probably without merits, if they are the courts will deal with them accordingly.

          There were instances of voter fraud from the election and the mail in ballots.


          Given what occurred in 2000, every single losing party of the election has had the right to legally challenge votes cast and counting since that time. They all choose to be adults and realize that they lost, but no one ever accused Trump of being an adult.

        2. “Allegations without a shred of evidence.”

          So you’ve examined all the court documents, including the ones to be submitted this week?

          Biden is lucky, that’s for sure.

          “Two reports, providing over 10 pages of statistical analysis of raw Pennsylvania voter data, appear to signal election irregularities – virtually all boosting Biden’s vote count in the critical state.”

        3. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead V

          Allegations with a shred perhaps a dump truck load of evidence. That is what court is for. The president’s attorney’s get to make their case. One lawyer claims that there were 450,000 ballots cast and the only name checked off? Biden/Harris. No votes down the ballot. Coincidence? Single minded voters? 71,000,000 Trump voters deserve to know for sure if this was a free and fair election. Gore fought for 30 some odd days. Why not let Trump’s people have a crack at it? Or is there something to hide? Don’t worry the Brooks Brothers are long retired now.

      2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        Trump will likely still allege fraud even after certification. Sources within the White House say that all these cries of fraud are not serious legal cases but just a way for Trump to save face.

    2. djrippert Avatar

      Hillary conceded.

  9. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    Georgia definitely needs a recount, and Pennsylvania needs a full examination of it process. I don’t think it will change the outcome but what was good enough for Gore in 2000 is good enough for Trump in 2020. They don’t get closer than this one. But the Double Standard is in full play. (Just look at NC, where Trump is further ahead than in many states now “called” for Biden, yet NC is still listed as uncertain. Total bias.)

    It is wrong for Trump to claim intentional fraud when he has no evidence. It is equally wrong for every media outlet to immediately label those as lies when they too have no evidence. No harm in letting this play out a bit and we see what turns up.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      Hear, Hear. I stated above that Bush v Gore paved the way to litigate all Presidential elections at the very lest, since it’s opinion.

      You’d be more privy than myself, do they stop counting upon one party conceding or do they count until all ballots are exhausted?

      1. Steve Haner Avatar
        Steve Haner

        They keep counting and then have a formal certification process for the results. For absentees in particular they need to record them all to keep track of who voted, update that list. Not all of them are dead…. 🙂

        1. Nancy_Naive Avatar

          BTW, You need to drink something like 8 liters of tonic to get a dose of quinine. I’m willing to try if you are. Have you tried Hendrick’s gin?

    2. Nancy_Naive Avatar

      Winners tell jokes and losers cry “deal!”

      And by losers, I’m using Trump’s definition: a loser is someone to whom he can lie and then get something he wants. In this case, he wanted the loser’s vote.

      So, lost twice, eh?

      1. Matt Adams Avatar

        I wasn’t aware I voted for Trump.

        1. Nancy_Naive Avatar

          So, just a loser AND an interloper?

          Oh wait, I forgot to add … 😀

          1. Matt Adams Avatar

            Naw, that’s all you silver spoon.

          2. Nancy_Naive Avatar

            Silver?! I can see the cause of your confusion, platinum is a white metal too.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar

            Nope, no confusion.

          4. Nancy_Naive Avatar

            No confusion for you. Confusion would be a sign of uncertainty. You’re just wrong with certainty.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar

            Not, really but I’m glad you’re trying.

  10. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
    Reed Fawell 3rd

    “Washington Post

    Print edition–lead story: Biden Moves Fast on Virus and Economy. Additional story: Latest COVID surge is breaking records website, 5:00 a.m. today — President-elect Biden announces coronavirus task force made up of physicians and health experts.”

    I am amazed at this post and these and other headlines therein sited, just as I was amazed at the Washington Post poll showing Biden with a 17 point lead in Wisconsin just before the election.

    What is the reality?

    Newspapers don’t determine who is president, the Electoral College does. Even then, whoever is definitively and properly certified as legitimately elected by the Electoral College, won’t be President until his term begins at noon on January 20 of the year following the election, after he takes the oath of office per the 20th amendment to the US Constitution. And legitimacy of this election will be and is being highly contested, so Biden shouldn’t be buying his Oval Offices drapes, now these corrupt newspapers playing their nasty games.

    These news headlines are as misleading as these discredited newspapers, and the people writing them, are crooked.

    1. Has Mr. Biden had an “Office of the President Elect” placard made? Has his campaign manager announced that he will be “ready to rule from day one” ?

  11. djrippert Avatar

    Politico says COVID surge may overwhelm health care facilities. Northam dithers.

    “The number of Americans hospitalized with Covid-19 has spiked to 56,000, up from 33,000 one month ago. In many areas of the country, shortages of ICU beds and staff are leaving patients piled up in emergency rooms. And nearly 1,100 people died on Saturday alone, according to the Covid Tracking Project.

    “That’s three jetliners full of people crashing and dying,” said David Eisenman, director of the UCLA Center for Public Health and Disasters. “And we will do that every day and then it will get more and more.”

  12. djrippert Avatar

    Utah hospitals are full. New COVID restrictions imposed. An emergency cellphone video sent to residents. Northam discussed statues at COVID update.

  13. djrippert Avatar

    New Jersey imposes new restrictions. New York experiments with micro-cluster management. Northam fiddles.

  14. djrippert Avatar

    Commie mayor of New York City has frank statement for New York City residents about the spike in COVID cases. Ralph “The COVID Mime” has nothing to say about the situation in Virginia.

  15. djrippert Avatar

    St Louis politicians discuss desperate COVID situation that city in the face of a stunningly high positivity rate. Northam stares out the window and admires fall foliage.

    1. Maybe he’s not just staring – maybe he is thinking about what he’s going to say when he testifies before the “VMI Racism Squad”.

  16. VDOTyranny Avatar

    I use Haystack for my TV news feed. By liking, disliking & muting various sources over the years, my current feed is basically a mix of local news from across the nation and international news sources. This morning, the top story on covid was about Pfizer announcing significant success for their covid vaccine.

    I guess I should be thankful that we’re now going to start getting news about how all is right with the world. Larry, please give the TL;DNR version how this is just a coincidence.

    1. VDOTyranny Avatar

      The downside… the media will no longer care about expansive executive power

  17. VDOTyranny Avatar

    My bet is the following:
    1) The Biden admin will take some irrelevant action
    2) The virus situation will eventually improve, irregardless of what action the Biden admin took
    3) The media will hail the Biden admin for taking the irrelevant action
    4) ??????
    5) Biden & his cronies profit!

    1. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
      Reed Fawell 3rd

      You are likely right, it will be nothing more than a show, and the Biden people aided heavily by the mainstream media will work very hard to create the false narrative aimed to give Biden all the credit. You can see that strategy of lies being constructed by the press right now as shown by the quoted headlines in press touted above.

    2. Steve Haner Avatar
      Steve Haner

      One of the experts I listen to is Scott Gottlieb, regularly on CNBC. He predicts a hard winter, but then a much better spring than last year. Was predicting that even before Magic Joe emerged as our anointed savior. With therapeutics and vaccines, an easy prediction to make. All hail Joe, who saved us from Evil Orange Man. No president ever nods to his predecessor unless to affix blame.

    3. Nancy_Naive Avatar

      Aside from the onset in New York with their results exaggerated by novelty, no doubt, the nationwide “confirmed case” to death ratio is about 65:1. That hasn’t changed since late May. It’s still holding today. There is no reason to believe that will change if testing rates remain the same, and as cases rise so do deaths.

      My only real concern is my friend with Parkinson’s. He’s definitely compromised.

      If you wear a mask, make an effort to distance yourself, and become ill, you have my sympathies. If you’re one of the Dumazzes, who whether you believed Trump or some other idiot, and enter the 7-11 with no mask, party and hang out in crowded bars, make no efforts, well, F you and all your loved ones who may be sickened and die. It’s on your head.

      I expect no miracles from Biden, only better information. Couldn’t be worse. Clorox enigmas burn like Hell. Whatever you do, DON’T USE THEIR WIPES, and they are not flushable anyway.

  18. Nancy_Naive Avatar

    USAG Barr has authorized and ordered his USAs to investigate any and all reports of voting ‘irregularities ‘… all 76,343,332 of them.

    1. Stop “lying” NN

      Attorney General William Barr authorized the Justice Department to investigate only “substantial allegations of voting and vote tabulation irregularities.”

      “While most allegations of purported election misconduct are of such a scale that they would not impact the outcome of an election and, thus, investigation can appropriately be deferred, that is not always the case. Furthermore, any concerns that overt actions taken by the Department could inadvertently impact an election are greatly minimized, if they exist at all, once voting has concluded, even if election certification has not yet been completed,” Barr said. “Given this, and given that voting in our current elections has now concluded, I authorize you to pursue substantial allegations of voting and vote tabulation irregularities prior to the certification of elections in your jurisdictions in certain cases, as I have already done in specific instances. Such inquiries and reviews may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State. Any investigation of claims of irregularities that, if true, would clearly not impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State should normally be deferred until after the election certification process is completed.”

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar

        His entire statement, with or without equivocations, is without evidence, is unprecedented, and is unmerited, but if it makes Trump feel better then I’m all for it. The “stable” genius still has the nuclear codes.

        The 76 million would have indicated to anyone not drinking orange Kool-Aid that my statement was facetious, but the person in the DoJ who oversees voting irregularities didn’t see the humor…

        1. You can keep repeating the “without evidence” mantra if that makes you feel better, but there’s considerable evidence. A thorough investigation may not change the election result, but any amount of fraud should be taken seriously.

          Besides “What goes around, comes around.”

          “Many Democrats and their allies in the media are angry that President Trump has accused Joe Biden and Democrats of cheating to win the presidency. No doubt some are frustrated, even in victory. But why should they be surprised when Trump says the other side cheated? After all, they said the same thing four years ago after the 2016 election.”

          “And they didn’t do it for just a week or two. Democrats pressed the cheating accusation to extraordinary lengths, month after month, and year after year, inflicting as much damage on Trump’s presidency as they possibly could. Today, after the 2020 vote, Trump’s accusations won’t have the same effect — they will be dismissed and then ignored by much of the media, as opposed to 2016-2019 when comparably groundless anti-Trump allegations were given daily headlines. But the fact is, in the Trump era, some Democrats made a false accusation of cheating part of their political strategy. They are in a poor position to complain about it now.”

      2. Nancy_Naive Avatar

        So much for State Laws…

        1. If state laws had been followed we wouldn’t be in this mess.

          In case you didn’t know, the Constitution allows only for state legislatures to change the ways elections are conducted. The numerous last minutes changes by administrators and regulators to help Biden created many of the issues we are now trying to resolve.

          1. Additionally, in case you didn’t know, fraud in a federal election is a violation of federal law. Here’s are some examples from previous elections to illustrate the point.

            “Federal Authorities Charge Nineteen with Voter Fraud”


          2. Nancy_Naive Avatar

            But Nate, where in Barr’s statement has he alleged “fraud”?

            The Feds do not have jurisdiction over “irregularities”. Federal law is very specific.

          3. The investigation comes first. Then it is determined what laws (if any) were broken.

            If everything is as squeaky clean as you suggest, what’s the problem?

          4. Nancy_Naive Avatar

            Nate, you’re forgetting something. Probable cause, Nate. Probable cause, sworn statements, oaths, warrants, Nate.

            Whatever other motive to that heavily equivocated statement, the only visible effect is to excite the morons. “Yea, it’s going to go into a do-over. Ooooh, we’re gonna win!”

            C’mon guys, one of you James or a Steve, please, talk to your brethren and followers. You owe it to them. Explain that this is bupkus. Do it for me, as a favor. It is just going to tear me apart to watch these guys go through the gut-wrenching pain of loss TWICE.

          5. “The office of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced late last week that a Limestone County woman faces 134 felony charges after she allegedly used her position as a social worker at a supported living facility to submit voter registration applications for patients without their consent.”

            Look it up.

            “Senator Lindsey Graham received an affidavit from an Erie, Pennsylvania postal worker who claimed some ballots were backdated to meet the Election Day deadline.”

            Look it up.

            “Administrative changes in Wisconsin election put tens of thousands of votes in question
            From allowing clerks to fix spoiled ballots to permitting voters to escape ID rules, Wisconsin election officials took actions that were not authorized by legislature.”


          6. You don’t consider affidavits to be evidence?

            NEW: election fraud lawsuit was filed in Detroit with affidavits alleging backdating ballots, no matching signatures. It includes an affidavit from a city employee claiming she was asked to backdate ballots:


            As stated previously, I don’t think the investigations will necessarily change the election result, but I think illegality and fraud are a big deal. We cannot restore confidence in the system by letting this stuff slide.

            The Democrats had 3 years of investigations when even the partisan investigators knew from the start there was no there there, but the over 70 million who voted for Trump can’t have a couple weeks for final tallies and to know the extent of the fraud?

            NN – “It is just going to tear me apart to watch these guys go through the gut-wrenching pain of loss TWICE.”

            Yah, right. Only thinking of us I’m sure.

  19. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
    Reed Fawell 3rd

    “Stop “lying” NN/.”

    Excellent advice, Nathan.

      1. Reed Fawell 3rd Avatar
        Reed Fawell 3rd

        “Richard Pilger, a Department of Justice official who oversees investigations of voting crimes, stepped down from his role Monday after Attorney General Bill Barr authorized U.S. attorneys to probe alleged elections fraud, the New York Times first reported.”

        Yes, this is an excellent career move for Mr. Pilger. Now he gets to pretend to be the great martyr while his cheap show assures his new hero status promotion in next Democratic administration, all for refusing to do his job at DOJ as the law requires. The perfect move for the professional politicized bureaucrat in DOJ of all places. And the cheap little story without perspective is right up the Axios alley as well.

  20. Nancy_Naive Avatar

    I know you guys are disappointed. I realize that you want things to be different, but in Barr’s statement, one keyword is missing. He dances around it, but he never says it, and it is the one word required for federal jurisdiction prior to cerification.

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