by Kerry Dougherty

Ask them.

Someone please ask the knee-jerk lefties who joined the Greek Chorus of “we must do more to end gun violence” last week just what “we” — the government, I suppose — could have done to prevent the massacre of six Walmart employees in their Chesapeake break room last Tuesday.

Ask them.

I’ll wait.

An assault weapon ban? Uh, no. That wouldn’t have prevented this. He used a pistol.

One gun a month? Nope. The shooter only bought one gun.

Short of a total ban on firearms, which would have to include confiscation of every weapon in the country, there is no law that would have saved these innocent lives from this homicidal maniac.

That’s the sad, but awful truth.

Andre Bing, the psycho who shot himself after killing six co-workers, reportedly used a legally purchased handgun to embark on his hideous shooting spree.

Sure, I suppose we could pass a law that would mandate a one-day cooling off period from the time of purchase until possession of a firearm. That would have delayed the massacre from Tuesday to Wednesday. A one-week waiting period would have put it off a week.

Other than that? There are no laws that could have prevented this insane man from slaughtering his co-workers.

I can think of a couple of things that might have prevented the workplace problem: if the co-workers who said Bing was paranoid and erratic and who had promised that if he ever got fired he’d “retaliate and people would remember who he was,” had reported him to upper management. Perhaps they could have gotten the guy removed from the job.

They never did, according to CNN.

Yet the surviving employees shouldn’t feel guilty. We’ve all worked with crazy people without trying to get them sacked. Fortunately none were killers.

A similar story emerged with the 2019 Municipal Center shootings in Virginia Beach. After the slaughter, the husband of one victim said his wife had wanted to bring her own gun to work on the day of the murders because she was afraid of the man who turned out to be the shooter.

Bing clearly had mental problems. People who knew him said he was mean and believed the government was watching him.

Mental health care has to be more readily available. A psychiatrist I know in Virginia Beach told me last year that the waiting period to get professional help is unacceptably long. We have a shortage of providers in our area.

Gov. Glenn Youngkin has promised to make mental health a priority in 2023. That’s a start.

And it makes far more sense than simply issuing platitudes about gun violence.

This column has been republished with permission from Kerry: Unemployed & Unedited.

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53 responses to “Chesapeake Walmart Tragedy”

  1. “. . . co-workers who said Bing was paranoid and erratic and who had promised
    that if he ever got fired he’d “retaliate and people would remember who
    he was, . . .”– so once again — signs were not MISSED, they were IGNORED! Like most mass shootings, according to both the FBI and Secret Service studies. Don’t harass law abiding firearms owners because of miscreants who are allowed to roam among us.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The ultimate goal is to disarm the populace in general. The intermediate goal is to require full registration and licensing, so the government knows who has guns. Try dropping a complaint on a mentally ill and certifiably violent coworker and see wh0 the government comes after instead, especially if that person is black. Why, Eric, Larry and Nancy and others on this blog would join the chorus of condemnation!

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        This would swing many black voters to the red team.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          If it were actually true. It’s not. It’s a bomb-throwing word the right uses to disrupt any further discussion about the issue… just leave the wackos alone. they have “rights”.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Have you ever been to a gun show?

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            I have – several times, in fact.

          3. and never a mass shooting there…. I wonder why?

          4. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Me too. Most interesting cultural event. Saturday outdoor flea markets are a close second.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            yes..they are very similar and they could be both at once, why not?

          6. You don’t believe “wackos” have rights?

            If abolishing the Bill of Rights is on the table, then I guess there are options.

            That’s not what I think is a fair tradeoff, but you are welcome to your opinion.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        just totally a lie Haner and shame on you, Your mouth does harm to you.

        I am OPPOSED to confiscation – period!

        But the “we can’t do ” refusal idiocy from the right is just as bad.

        We blather “thoughts and prayers” and ” it’s a mental illness problem” and then do what about it – ZIPPO!

        that’s the right’s “approach”. Fend off any and all attempts to do anything by blowing it up with words like “unConstitutional” and “confiscation” and such,

        Haner often portrays himself as a reasonable person, then he pretty much reveals his true nature with a post like this. Shame on him.

        1. The gun control crowd is using every means possible to make owning a firearm next to impossible. Perhaps that doesn’t include you, personally, but that’s what’s happening nationally.

          They’re putting pressure on banks to not do business with any business associated with firearms or ammunition – and not just the scary black guns.

          And pressure on delivery services not to ship them.

          They oppose shooting ranges.

          And as we have already seen, lawsuits to drive them into bankruptcy.

          Their thirst for restrictions will never be satisfied.

      3. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Just semiautomatics.

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          Just sell 3/5ths of a gun. Trigger not included.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            6 bullets first purchase. More bullets require a character witness.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Ah, the Barney Fife solutions…

          3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            Invoke the Barney Fife rule. 1 bullet. Get real strict and require Andy to keep the bullet on behalf of Barney.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            No magazines. revolvers only.

      4. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        If the populace were unarmed, what harm would that be?

        1. We’d still be singing “God Save the King”.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar

            He must have missed 1774 and the basis for the 2nd Amendment as a result of the British’s actions.

            Than again, I don’t suspect he reads much history as he’s often giving to misquoting it.

        2. How do you propose disarming the entire populous? Magic?

          1. I worked with a guy whose family was Czech.

            Their story was in WWII when the Nazis took over a town their first stop was the town hall. There they got the gun registration records. They then confiscated guns by owner, street address, make, model and serial number.

            Can’t happen here, can’t happen here, can’t…

          2. Surely sheriff’s deputies will be very enthusiastic about going door to door demanding that people cough up their guns:)

          3. Merchantseamen Avatar

            Most Sheriffs are elected therefore beholden to the people..not politicians. All other LEO’s are appointed and beholden to their pensions and unions.

        3. “If the populace were unarmed, what harm would that be?”

          Thank you for your honesty. The article you wrote was so opaque as to be practically worthless in assessing your actual intent. But now we have it.

          So in your perfect world:

          Lawsuits would abound

          Attorneys would rake in millions and could hire armed protection.

          Ordinary people would be helpless.

          Sounds great….for you.

      5. See how fast courts act on unsubstantiated claims of domestic violence, child abuse or mental instability in a hostile divorce case.

        1. vicnicholls Avatar

          They do – that is the reason why ERPO’s, as set up now – are illegal and unconstitutional. They “say” you have recourse, but you don’t. Try getting guns back fast from the cops. Like I said, its used to retaliate against their enemies. One of the main Senators has done that against her own daughter – outing her.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      re: ” Don’t harass law abiding firearms owners because of miscreants who are allowed to roam among us.”

      …. so mass killings are sometimes the result of bullying and harassment?

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Now, if only we could get companies to report all data breaches…

    4. LarrytheG Avatar

      HOW would you have stopped him if you could set the rules? How?

      1. Earlier I said that I wasn’t aware of any negligence. I had not yet heard of the reports sited in this article at that time.

        I do believe in reporting threatening behavior. There’s no point in having Red Flag laws if such behavior isn’t reported.

        In some cases, however, doing so may come at some risk to the person doing the reporting. It’s like testifying against a mobster or gang member. I’m for it in theory, but understand why people may be reluctant under certain conditions.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    The idea that there is NOTHING that can be done is simply willful ignorance in my view.

    A cooling off period… perhaps 7 days or even 30 days.

    A requirement for a character witness signature.

    there are more… and they would all be “constitutional” because SCOTUS has actually said that guns CAN be “regulated” – and they already are and have been for quite some time.

    Finally, all this talk about “mental health” and this guy was in good enough mental health to hold a job, buy a house and car, etc… how in the world would we figure out this guy was a “psycho” anyhow?

    1. I thought the Dems passed ‘Red Flag’ laws just for scenarios like this? IF NOT- WHY?

      So you want a woman experiencing spousal abuse to be an easy victim for 30 days? We’ve seen how that works out so many times in the past.

      SOMETHING can be done — put mentally ill people in asylums until they’re better and criminals behind bars… then we’ll be safe.. I know this is a novel approach.

      Stop punishing the law abiding and focus on the trouble makers — they, and their apologists, are the problem.

      On another track to make other ‘heads explode’– what if just one of the employees had been carrying a concealed firearm? The Pulse nightclub shows what happens with that concept of an ‘armed populace’.

      1. The leftist response to almost all crime is the punishment of the law abiding. The left doesn’t generally believe in natural or God given rights. They really prefer government granted privileges (a boon from the overlords to the peasants).

      2. I thought the Dems passed ‘Red Flag’ laws just for scenarios like this?

        They did. About two years ago.

      3. LarrytheG Avatar

        THe GOP says they support Red Flag laws also.

        We had drunk driving laws before but they did not work – does that mean that any/all drunk driving laws won’t work or that we need to work on the law to get it to work?

        Putting the mentally ill into asylums when you’re talking about mass killers. WHEN do we know they ARE “mentally ill”? after the fact?

        THe “pulse nightclub” is a good example? How many people died?
        that’s a good thing?

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          I’ll bite – why didn’t the original drunk driving laws work? I’ve been driving since 1975 in Virginia and those laws have worked at least that long.

          1. how_it_works Avatar

            Maybe he’s referring to Ted Kennedy?

        2. Greater gun control as a solution to mass shootings is a type of collective punishment that doesn’t work, and is never finished. Has any Democrat state finished passing gun restrictions?

          If we applied the same logic (or lack thereof) to drunk driving, then we would ban specific vehicles and types of alcohol.

          After all, does anyone really NEED distilled liquor? (says the person who either doesn’t drink or drinks only beer and wine)

          Drunk driving laws focus on the perpetrators, not all users of alcohol.

    2. Merchantseamen Avatar

      All the crap drugs the “government” gives to kids. Ridlian etc. The teachers want the kids to sit and pick dust out of sun beams. Late teens to early thirties they go berserk, shoot up schools and what not. Not all, but damage seems to be the order of the day for a lot of young adults. Especially males. Can I give links and studies? No. However the “break” or separation line seems to be some 40 years ago. Yes I remember going to school with my Granddaddy’s shotgun in the trunk and then going bird hunting that afternoon. Deer season the high school closed down along with GE and Yale Lock for a long weekend. Could not hunt on Sunday tho. Those days are long gone a different time and era. Now before the Leftists on here foam at the mouth, scream and become indignant. This is my opinion based on life experience.

  3. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Didn’t realize Sherlock was a knee jerk liberal… or maybe it’s just UVa?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      a bit of a weird Conservative who like the govt then blames it.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    re: ” Don’t harass law abiding gun owning citizens”.

    this is true about virtually every mass killer who is perceived to be mentally fit up to the point where he is no longer a “law-abiding” citizen and mentally ill.

    So we’re supposed to leave people alone UNTIL ?

    sounds about right.

  5. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    WELL STATED. Someone stated yesterday on this blog that gun laws are for ordinary people, and in my words, not for people who have mental health problems or are just plain criminal.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Lotsa folks blow up at Dunkin’ Donuts b/c the wait staff made an error. Mental health problem, just plain criminal, or jelly donut without sugar?

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    He bought the gun that morning. Three day waiting period? Perhaps he might have calmed down. I covered a trial in Salem 40 years ago where the killer lost his temper, left a ball field to buy a gun, came back and opened fire (missing his target and killing a bystander.) Since then I’m open to waiting periods.

    Yes, his coworkers should have warned the bosses, and let’s not be sure they didn’t. The civil legal process will tease it out, probably. The shredders and delete buttons were probably in use quickly.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Did he buy it that morning? Or did he take possession that morning? You know reporters. Most couldn’t sneeze if brains were gunpowder. Present company excluded.

    2. Are you open to offering exceptions to the waiting period for people with restraining orders against individuals who have threatened or abused them?

  7. DJRippert Avatar

    Well, better background checks for police officers seem to be falling short in Virginia … if you can’t stop a deranged person from becoming a state policeman and graduating from the state police academy how will anybody ever identify a Wal-Mart manager as a psycho?

    1. how_it_works Avatar

      He was also a Sheriff’s Deputy for Washington County, Virginia, after he resigned from the state police.

      Guess his resignation from the state police wasn’t a matter of concern to the Washington County Sheriff’s office.

    2. Police recruitments are not just down, they’re way down. That means few potential candidates to select from. The worst is yet to come.

      ‘Why would anyone want to be a cop today?’

      “Even cops don’t seem to want their children getting into the profession”

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Four reasons.
        1) it’s a job, a paycheck.
        2) family business, Dad was a cop, Bro’ is a cop.
        3) to be of service, I want to help people.
        4) licensed to kill.

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